<VV> Paint, was: Comments to the Virginia DMV (humor) and the ForbiddenMentionof painting

Mon Sep 21 13:22:56 EDT 2009

Sorry Mark, base coat/clear coat is the only way to fly. Obviously something 
went wrong when your clear was applied.
On that note, I painted a '75 Cutlass years ago with white lacquer and clear 
Imron top coat. A couple years later, the clear Imron peeled off in sheets. 
Apparently what I did was a no-no.

Harry Yarnell
Perryman garage and orphanage
Perryman, MD
hyarnell1 at earthlink.net
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To: "Tony Underwood" <tony.underwood at cox.net>; "Mike Stillwell" 
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Subject: <VV> Paint,was: Comments to the Virginia DMV (humor) and the 
ForbiddenMentionof painting

> My trailer (which is a '93) was originally painted Cadillac red, with a
> clearcoat. The clearcoat has taken to peeling off, leaving the base coat
> exposed. Based on that and other experiences, I wouldn't paint a car with
> basecoat/clearcoat.
>
> -Mark
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Comments to the Virginia DMV (humor) and the
> ForbiddenMention of painting
>>
>> I've begun considering (since Mr Vigilante and his cute little
>> friggin' note) just registering the car with the 1960 plates as a
>> standard registration, put the yearly decals on the corner of those
>> tags, get it inspected (it should have no trouble passing) and
>> driving the thing exclusively everywhere and every place and wear it
>> out instead of the Jeep ;).
>>
>>
>> Either that, or paint it...
>>
>>
>> That's a viable option right about now seeing as I'm in the mood,
>> having shifted into "paint and body" mode over the last week.
>>
>>
>> Remember that '62 ragtop from Back When?    Painted it (finally)
>> maroon, finished the final color coat yesterday, now waiting the
>> required day or so for the paint to harden and cure before buffing it
>> out, and yes it's lacquer and I'll probably regret it after a few
>> years.   Lacquer these days isn't what it used to be, although this
>> particular maroon stuff is "vintage" paint that had been sitting for
>> quite some time, probably a couple of decades now.   It still was
>> fine, no settling or thickening nor did it do anything but just go on
>> smoothly.
>>
>> I'd been looking for "back shelf" lacquer on Ebay and at paint shops
>> around town for some time, trying to find older commercial quality
>> stuff that hopefully still had some substance to it and I've acquired
>> some older lacquer that although rather long of tooth still seems to
>> be pretty good and looks as if it will maybe work out without rotting
>> when exposed to the sun for a couple of years.
>>
>> Recently (well, several years ago) we bought some fresh Roman Red
>> lacquer (PPG) to paint the '60 Monza and it has NOT held up
>> well.   Even clear coated, it has faded and is beginning to flake on
>> the top surfaces that catch the most sunlight and will need a partial
>> repaint again.    The same color red that is on the recently acquired
>> '61 Lakewood which hasn't seen any wax since 1971 and has been
>> sitting in the weather a VERY long time will STILL shine if waxed and
>> indeed the sides are still showing gloss now, and that paint is the
>> factory original lacquer.    I don't know what GM was using then but
>> it sure holds up better than what is available these days.
>>
>>
>> As mentioned, lacquer ain't what it used to be.    This is partly the
>> reason I decided to use this gallon of dusty and faded-label maroon
>> paint that had been sitting around for many years.   Hopefully it's
>> gonna hold up.   Likewise the Datsun red I have, and some DuPont
>> white (ford white) and a gallon of DuPont black that dates back to
>> the late '70s I think...  not sure if I'm gonna turn up any more old
>> lacquer in this town.   I still haunt Ebay now and again looking for
>> vintage lacquer but it's dried up even there. ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> I have considered using a urethane clearcoat over lacquer to help
>> make it more durable but I'm suspicious of how well it will actually
>> stay on the car.  Urethanes are still basically enamels (tough
>> enamels, I admit) but enamels do not have a very good history of
>> sticking to plastic paint such as acrylic lacquer.    Others in the
>> business I've talked to have said they hadn't had very good luck with
>> clearcoating lacquer with urethane.    So, this maroon is gonna be
>> it... we'll see how it holds up to the environment.
>>
>> If nothing else it's an excuse to go out and buy some more Meguiars #8.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> tony..
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