<VV> Paint, was: Comments to the Virginia DMV (humor) and the ForbiddenMention of painting
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Mon Sep 21 12:40:43 EDT 2009
My trailer (which is a '93) was originally painted Cadillac red, with a
clearcoat. The clearcoat has taken to peeling off, leaving the base coat
exposed. Based on that and other experiences, I wouldn't paint a car with
basecoat/clearcoat.
-Mark
> [Original Message]
> From: Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Comments to the Virginia DMV (humor) and the
ForbiddenMention of painting
>
> I've begun considering (since Mr Vigilante and his cute little
> friggin' note) just registering the car with the 1960 plates as a
> standard registration, put the yearly decals on the corner of those
> tags, get it inspected (it should have no trouble passing) and
> driving the thing exclusively everywhere and every place and wear it
> out instead of the Jeep ;).
>
>
> Either that, or paint it...
>
>
> That's a viable option right about now seeing as I'm in the mood,
> having shifted into "paint and body" mode over the last week.
>
>
> Remember that '62 ragtop from Back When? Painted it (finally)
> maroon, finished the final color coat yesterday, now waiting the
> required day or so for the paint to harden and cure before buffing it
> out, and yes it's lacquer and I'll probably regret it after a few
> years. Lacquer these days isn't what it used to be, although this
> particular maroon stuff is "vintage" paint that had been sitting for
> quite some time, probably a couple of decades now. It still was
> fine, no settling or thickening nor did it do anything but just go on
> smoothly.
>
> I'd been looking for "back shelf" lacquer on Ebay and at paint shops
> around town for some time, trying to find older commercial quality
> stuff that hopefully still had some substance to it and I've acquired
> some older lacquer that although rather long of tooth still seems to
> be pretty good and looks as if it will maybe work out without rotting
> when exposed to the sun for a couple of years.
>
> Recently (well, several years ago) we bought some fresh Roman Red
> lacquer (PPG) to paint the '60 Monza and it has NOT held up
> well. Even clear coated, it has faded and is beginning to flake on
> the top surfaces that catch the most sunlight and will need a partial
> repaint again. The same color red that is on the recently acquired
> '61 Lakewood which hasn't seen any wax since 1971 and has been
> sitting in the weather a VERY long time will STILL shine if waxed and
> indeed the sides are still showing gloss now, and that paint is the
> factory original lacquer. I don't know what GM was using then but
> it sure holds up better than what is available these days.
>
>
> As mentioned, lacquer ain't what it used to be. This is partly the
> reason I decided to use this gallon of dusty and faded-label maroon
> paint that had been sitting around for many years. Hopefully it's
> gonna hold up. Likewise the Datsun red I have, and some DuPont
> white (ford white) and a gallon of DuPont black that dates back to
> the late '70s I think... not sure if I'm gonna turn up any more old
> lacquer in this town. I still haunt Ebay now and again looking for
> vintage lacquer but it's dried up even there. ;)
>
>
>
> I have considered using a urethane clearcoat over lacquer to help
> make it more durable but I'm suspicious of how well it will actually
> stay on the car. Urethanes are still basically enamels (tough
> enamels, I admit) but enamels do not have a very good history of
> sticking to plastic paint such as acrylic lacquer. Others in the
> business I've talked to have said they hadn't had very good luck with
> clearcoating lacquer with urethane. So, this maroon is gonna be
> it... we'll see how it holds up to the environment.
>
> If nothing else it's an excuse to go out and buy some more Meguiars #8.
>
>
>
>
> tony..
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