<VV> ebay alert

[Charles Lee]

It wouldn't be "speculating" if he had them !

But you're right, by using pix he does not even know to be accurate, and 
especially since he has apparently not even paid for them, he is not an 
honest seller, to say the least.

Why would he make up that he upgraded ?

Something's missing here ?




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan and Clare Wesson" <alan.wesson@atlas.co.uk>
To: "Charles Lee" <chaz@ivic.net>; "Virtual Vairs" 
<VirtualVairs@corvair.org>; <Monza67@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert


>I don't think there's any problem at all with speculating, but at the 
>moment he is trying to sell something which doesn't belong to him, using 
>photographs he doesn't even know are accurate, and I think this goes 
>against a lot of eBay's rules. To underline what I mean, try emailing him 
>and asking him for further pictures and details of the wheels - he won't be 
>able to provide any, but this isn't at all clear from the auction.
>
> But speculating would be absolutely fine once he had actually *received* 
> the wheels!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alan
>
> www.xtraspecialsevens.co.uk
> Lotus 7 S2 and S3 spares and restoration specialists
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Lee" <chaz@ivic.net>
> To: "Virtual Vairs" <VirtualVairs@corvair.org>; <Monza67@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert
>
>
>> Does eBay specify that "speculating" is wrong ?  It's done every day, and 
>> a great way to do business, buying something only after you've sold it.
>>
>> I think he's allowed to sell something he speculates that he reasonably 
>> will have (unless eBay has a policy against this ?), but the real problem 
>> could come from not actually being able to acquire the wheels, after 
>> selling them to a third party.  Paying for them would help to ensure that 
>> this happens, and that he can fulfill his promise.
>>
>> This seller could have a problem if he doesn't pay the current owner for 
>> the wheels, and therefore never gets them to sell.
>>
>> It all seems to hinge on whether he pays the first owner of the wheels 
>> for them.
>>
>> This gets more legalistic than I can get, not being a lawyer, but it 
>> seems very interesting anyway.
>>
>> Did the first owner get paid yet ?  Therein lies the rub, so to speak ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Monza67@aol.com>
>> To: <hharpo@earthlink.net>; <virtualvairs@skiblack.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> ebay alert
>>
>>
>>>I reported the person to the ebay cops. The problem I have with the whole
>>> situation is that he has listed them for sale and doesn't even own them 
>>> yet. He
>>> has also given a description of them that is not the same as my 
>>> description and
>>> he has never even seen the wheels, except in my picture. He obviously is 
>>> not
>>> truthful in the whole situation and that bothers me when I see it on 
>>> ebay.
>>> Once he pays me and has possession of the wheels, he can do whatever he 
>>> wants
>>> with them.
>>> Chuck
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