<VV> Magnets
Ron
ronh at owt.com
Sun Mar 31 02:19:25 EDT 2013
It's my understanding that iron oxide is non-magnetic.
RonH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Woolf" <jon at jonwoolf.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets
> Magnets on oil filters- cool idea. Why don't they build them that way?
> I've used them also under the gas tank to hold the rusties at the very
> bottom- delays the heartache of pulling out the tank to clean it.
>
> Maybe on the bottom of the trans also, same purpose?
>
>
> JJW
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>> 1. Fine Particles (Smitty)
>> 2. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Kinzelman, Andy)
>> 3. Magnets on oil filters (Sethracer at aol.com)
>> 4. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Tom Berg)
>> 5. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Matt Nall)
>> 6. Re: Magnets on oil filters (J R Read)
>> 7. Re: Magnets on oil filters (Sethracer at aol.com)
>> 8. Re: Magnets on oil filters (hihal6 at gmail.com)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:45:49 -0400
>> From: "Smitty" <vairologist at cox.net>
>> Subject: <VV> Fine Particles
>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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>> I also put very strong magnets from junk hard drives in all of my motors
>> ,
>> transmissions , and differentials to catch any fine break in particles. I
>> also use magnetic drain plugs as sort of an indicator if too much going
>> on
>> in the wear dept.
>> one magnet on inside of each valve cover , one on the oil pump screen
>> shield in the little recess. on top cover of differential , in pan of
>> powerglides. I do not have any 4 speeds . a recheck on a couple shows the
>> magnet
>> grabbing VERY fine "mud" in each case. I bet it helps?
>> A guy could also put a magnet that strong on the outside of an oil filter
>> to help also.
>> Regards, Tim Colson
>> **********************
>> Smit5ty Says. For the most part I agree with you Tim. Every time I have
>> left magnets in engines Trannys abd diffs, they have collected a talcum
>> powder of particles. I would add a note of caution on the oil filter
>> magnet
>> though. (I used to do that). If you have the magnet stuck on the filter
>> and the magnetic field collects a pretty good pile of crud on the inside,
>> then if something or somebody moves the magnet, it is my opinion that a
>> slug
>> of metallic particles will be released all at once into the oil system.
>> In
>> my mind that has to be more harmfull than the routine passing of the
>> particles. Now what we really need is a bunch of those extremely rare
>> aluminum magnets.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:02:06 -0500
>> From: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>> To: jay m <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
>> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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>> Jay,
>> OK - I guess I'll concede; just stirring the pot.
>> Happy Easter,
>> Andy K.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: jay m [jaysplace at laserpubs.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:52 AM
>> To: Kinzelman, Andy
>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>>
>> On 3/30/2013 8:23 AM, Kinzelman, Andy wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>> IMO the 64 does NOT have a fully independent rear suspension; as the
>>> transverse spring is not solidly mounted to the diff. Motion at one
>>> rear wheel WILL affect the other rear wheel.
>>> Looking for other opinions.
>>> Andy K. Wisconsin
>> ok, here's mine -
>> by that standard, no suspension with a sway bar would be a fully
>> independent suspension - front or rear.
>>
>> It isn't a live axle, it isn't a De Dion, it is independent.
>> The motion path of each wheel is independent of the other, even if the
>> effective spring rate is affected by the motion /position of the other.
>>
>> fwiw
>> Jay
>>
>> --
>> Jay
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:34:51 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Sethracer at aol.com
>> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>> To: vairologist at cox.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Message-ID: <842d.15c52237.3e88985a at aol.com>
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>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>> stays in
>> place magnetically.
>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>
>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>
>> -Seth
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/30/2013 9:46:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> vairologist at cox.net writes:
>>
>> If you have the magnet stuck on the filter
>> and the magnetic field collects a pretty good pile of crud on the
>> inside,
>> then if something or somebody moves the magnet, it is my opinion that a
>> slug
>> of metallic particles will be released all at once into the oil system.
>> In
>> my mind that has to be more harmfull than the routine passing of the
>> particles.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Tom Berg <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>> To: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>, jay m
>> <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
>> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Message-ID:
>> <1364672524.11813.YahooMailNeo at web163902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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>>
>> ?
>> Isn't the transverse leaf bolted to the transmission? I recall removing
>> and reinstalling that bolt during some work years ago.
>> ?
>> --Tom in Ohio
>> '64 Monza convertible
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>
>> To: jay m <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
>> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>>
>> Jay,
>> OK - I guess I'll concede; just stirring the pot.
>> Happy Easter,
>> Andy K.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: jay m [jaysplace at laserpubs.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:52 AM
>> To: Kinzelman, Andy
>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>>
>> On 3/30/2013 8:23 AM, Kinzelman, Andy wrote:
>>> Guys,
>>> IMO the 64 does NOT have a fully independent rear suspension; as the
>>> transverse spring is not solidly mounted to the diff.? Motion at one
>>> rear wheel WILL affect the other rear wheel.
>>> Looking for other opinions.
>>> Andy K. Wisconsin
>> ok, here's mine -
>> by that standard, no suspension with a sway bar would be a fully
>> independent suspension - front or rear.
>>
>> It isn't a live axle, it isn't a De Dion, it is independent.
>> The motion path of each wheel is independent of the other, even if the
>> effective spring rate is affected by the motion /position of the other.
>>
>> fwiw
>> Jay
>>
>> --
>> Jay
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:47:11 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Matt Nall <patiomatt at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Isn't the transverse leaf bolted to the transmission? I recall removing
>> and
>> reinstalling that bolt during some work years ago.
>>
>> --Tom in Ohio
>> '64 Monza convertible
>>
>> ===========================================
>>
>>
>> YES! bolted solid.... it's a spring... not a swaybar!
>>
>>
>> Matt Nall
>> Charleston, Oregon
>> http://tinyurl.com/The-Corvair-Patio
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:23:01 -0500
>> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>> To: <Sethracer at aol.com>, <vairologist at cox.net>,
>> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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>> Ouch! Pricey.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
>> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>>
>>
>>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>>> stays in
>>> place magnetically.
>>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>>
>>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>>
>>> -Seth
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: Sethracer at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>> To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Message-ID: <995d.44bd9854.3e88ad59 at aol.com>
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>> True - and probably why people epoxy them onto the outside. Exactly where
>> on the extinct hard disk is the Heavy Duty magnet? part of the motor? -
>> Seth
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/30/2013 1:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>
>> Ouch! Pricey.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
>> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>>
>>
>>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>>> stays in
>>> place magnetically.
>>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>>
>>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>>
>>> -Seth
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:07:20 -0400
>> From: hihal6 at gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>> To: Sethracer at aol.com
>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAOT7wAGhR0yATzZrD8t1F2mZUg1gSjNDfDQVxsasn3djVNFrog at mail.gmail.com>
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>> Saturns used a magnet in the AT filter and the website below lists two
>> magnets for use in the AT sump. I don't know of any reason these wouldn't
>> work as well in the oil pan. My OEM Saturn AT filter had a round magnet
>> at
>> the top of the AT filter which I wipe clean and reuse when replacing the
>> filter and changing fluid.
>>
>> See misc parts at
>> http://www.makcotransmissionparts.com/Saturn-TAAT.html
>>
>> Wade Halsey
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:04 PM, <Sethracer at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> True - and probably why people epoxy them onto the outside. Exactly
>>> where
>>> on the extinct hard disk is the Heavy Duty magnet? part of the motor? -
>>> Seth
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 3/30/2013 1:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>> hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>>
>>> Ouch! Pricey.
>>>
>>> Later, JR
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>>> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
>>> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>>>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on,
>>>> then
>>>> stays in
>>>> place magnetically.
>>>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>>>
>>>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>>>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>>>
>>>> -Seth
>>>>
>>>>
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