<VV> Magnets
Jon Woolf
jon at jonwoolf.com
Sat Mar 30 19:31:11 EDT 2013
Magnets on oil filters- cool idea. Why don't they build them that way?
I've used them also under the gas tank to hold the rusties at the very
bottom- delays the heartache of pulling out the tank to clean it.
Maybe on the bottom of the trans also, same purpose?
JJW
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> 1. Fine Particles (Smitty)
> 2. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Kinzelman, Andy)
> 3. Magnets on oil filters (Sethracer at aol.com)
> 4. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Tom Berg)
> 5. Re: 64 - rear suspension (Matt Nall)
> 6. Re: Magnets on oil filters (J R Read)
> 7. Re: Magnets on oil filters (Sethracer at aol.com)
> 8. Re: Magnets on oil filters (hihal6 at gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:45:49 -0400
> From: "Smitty" <vairologist at cox.net>
> Subject: <VV> Fine Particles
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> I also put very strong magnets from junk hard drives in all of my motors ,
> transmissions , and differentials to catch any fine break in particles. I
> also use magnetic drain plugs as sort of an indicator if too much going on
> in the wear dept.
> one magnet on inside of each valve cover , one on the oil pump screen
> shield in the little recess. on top cover of differential , in pan of
> powerglides. I do not have any 4 speeds . a recheck on a couple shows the
> magnet
> grabbing VERY fine "mud" in each case. I bet it helps?
> A guy could also put a magnet that strong on the outside of an oil filter
> to help also.
> Regards, Tim Colson
> **********************
> Smit5ty Says. For the most part I agree with you Tim. Every time I have
> left magnets in engines Trannys abd diffs, they have collected a talcum
> powder of particles. I would add a note of caution on the oil filter magnet
> though. (I used to do that). If you have the magnet stuck on the filter
> and the magnetic field collects a pretty good pile of crud on the inside,
> then if something or somebody moves the magnet, it is my opinion that a slug
> of metallic particles will be released all at once into the oil system. In
> my mind that has to be more harmfull than the routine passing of the
> particles. Now what we really need is a bunch of those extremely rare
> aluminum magnets.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:02:06 -0500
> From: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
> To: jay m <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Jay,
> OK - I guess I'll concede; just stirring the pot.
> Happy Easter,
> Andy K.
> ________________________________________
> From: jay m [jaysplace at laserpubs.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: Kinzelman, Andy
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
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> On 3/30/2013 8:23 AM, Kinzelman, Andy wrote:
>> Guys,
>> IMO the 64 does NOT have a fully independent rear suspension; as the transverse spring is not solidly mounted to the diff. Motion at one rear wheel WILL affect the other rear wheel.
>> Looking for other opinions.
>> Andy K. Wisconsin
> ok, here's mine -
> by that standard, no suspension with a sway bar would be a fully
> independent suspension - front or rear.
>
> It isn't a live axle, it isn't a De Dion, it is independent.
> The motion path of each wheel is independent of the other, even if the
> effective spring rate is affected by the motion /position of the other.
>
> fwiw
> Jay
>
> --
> Jay
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:34:51 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Sethracer at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
> To: vairologist at cox.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then stays in
> place magnetically.
> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>
> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>
> -Seth
>
>
> In a message dated 3/30/2013 9:46:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> vairologist at cox.net writes:
>
> If you have the magnet stuck on the filter
> and the magnetic field collects a pretty good pile of crud on the inside,
> then if something or somebody moves the magnet, it is my opinion that a
> slug
> of metallic particles will be released all at once into the oil system. In
> my mind that has to be more harmfull than the routine passing of the
> particles.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 12:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tom Berg <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
> To: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>, jay m
> <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> ?
> Isn't the transverse leaf bolted to the transmission? I recall removing and reinstalling that bolt during some work years ago.
> ?
> --Tom in Ohio
> '64 Monza convertible
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Kinzelman, Andy" <akinzelm at greatnortherncorp.com>
> To: jay m <jaysplace at laserpubs.com>
> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:02 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>
> Jay,
> OK - I guess I'll concede; just stirring the pot.
> Happy Easter,
> Andy K.
> ________________________________________
> From: jay m [jaysplace at laserpubs.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: Kinzelman, Andy
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
>
> On 3/30/2013 8:23 AM, Kinzelman, Andy wrote:
>> Guys,
>> IMO the 64 does NOT have a fully independent rear suspension; as the transverse spring is not solidly mounted to the diff.? Motion at one rear wheel WILL affect the other rear wheel.
>> Looking for other opinions.
>> Andy K. Wisconsin
> ok, here's mine -
> by that standard, no suspension with a sway bar would be a fully
> independent suspension - front or rear.
>
> It isn't a live axle, it isn't a De Dion, it is independent.
> The motion path of each wheel is independent of the other, even if the
> effective spring rate is affected by the motion /position of the other.
>
> fwiw
> Jay
>
> --
> Jay
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:47:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Matt Nall <patiomatt at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 64 - rear suspension
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> Isn't the transverse leaf bolted to the transmission? I recall removing and
> reinstalling that bolt during some work years ago.
>
> --Tom in Ohio
> '64 Monza convertible
>
> ===========================================
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>
> YES! bolted solid.... it's a spring... not a swaybar!
>
>
> Matt Nall
> Charleston, Oregon
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:23:01 -0500
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
> To: <Sethracer at aol.com>, <vairologist at cox.net>,
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Ouch! Pricey.
>
> Later, JR
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>
>
>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>> stays in
>> place magnetically.
>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>
>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>
>> -Seth
>>
>>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Sethracer at aol.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
> To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> True - and probably why people epoxy them onto the outside. Exactly where
> on the extinct hard disk is the Heavy Duty magnet? part of the motor? -
> Seth
>
>
> In a message dated 3/30/2013 1:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Ouch! Pricey.
>
> Later, JR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>
>
>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>> stays in
>> place magnetically.
>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>
>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>
>> -Seth
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:07:20 -0400
> From: hihal6 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
> To: Sethracer at aol.com
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
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> Saturns used a magnet in the AT filter and the website below lists two
> magnets for use in the AT sump. I don't know of any reason these wouldn't
> work as well in the oil pan. My OEM Saturn AT filter had a round magnet at
> the top of the AT filter which I wipe clean and reuse when replacing the
> filter and changing fluid.
>
> See misc parts at http://www.makcotransmissionparts.com/Saturn-TAAT.html
>
> Wade Halsey
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:04 PM, <Sethracer at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> True - and probably why people epoxy them onto the outside. Exactly where
>> on the extinct hard disk is the Heavy Duty magnet? part of the motor? -
>> Seth
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 3/30/2013 1:23:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:
>>
>> Ouch! Pricey.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>> To: <vairologist at cox.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:34 PM
>> Subject: <VV> Magnets on oil filters
>>
>>
>>> I have seen people epoxy a magnet onto the outside. There is also a
>>> product: Filtermag available to apply to your filter. It snaps on, then
>>> stays in
>>> place magnetically.
>>> Summit carries it. Here is a link to a video demo:
>>>
>>> _http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video_
>>> (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ftm-ss365/media/video)
>>>
>>> -Seth
>>>
>>>
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