<VV> Fw: Re: 1969 Corvair shoulder belt option 3AS1AH ?

[shortle]

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>From: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>Sent: Nov 16, 2011 9:28 AM
>To: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>, n5hsr at sprynet.com, "'Bill H.'" <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> 1969 Corvair shoulder belt option 3AS1AH ?
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>My '69 Monza Convertible #2891 has shoulder belts. They are mounted on the rear door panels. I consider them to be cumbersome and strange compared with the belts we have today. But I still wear them whenever driving. You just have to remember to release the hand brake before putting it on.
>Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
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>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>>Sent: Nov 15, 2011 9:42 PM
>>To: n5hsr at sprynet.com, "'Bill H.'" <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>Subject: <VV> 1969 Corvair shoulder belt option 3AS1AH ?
>>
>>But not shoulder belts, right ?
>>
>>My 69 Monza Convertible had to process a special order for shoulder belts
>>(with a lot of huffing and puffing all the way up to the sales manager)
>>
>>Does anyone have a 1969 catalogue?  I remember they had to find a place to
>>fix the belt since there was no roof to hold it.
>>
>>Is option '3AS1AH' available only on a coupe, or was it available on a
>>convertible ?
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>>[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of n5hsr at sprynet.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:58 PM
>>To: Charles Lee; 'Bill H.'; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Corvairs and seat belts ~ retrofitting to suit new laws ?
>>
>>Illinois passed a law about 1964 that all NEW cars had to be fitted with
>>seat belts effective with the 1965 model year, and in order to sell a used
>>car 1961 model year or later, it also had to be retrofitted with seat belts.
>>We had to get seat belts for our 63 Chevy II.  Never used them, they were
>>pretty much useless anyway.
>>
>>Charles Fregeau
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>>>Sent: Nov 15, 2011 6:33 PM
>>>To: "'Bill H.'" <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>Subject: <VV> Corvairs and seat belts ~ retrofitting to suit new laws ?
>>>
>>>Cops are very superficial (as has been duly shown in previous messages) ~
>>>they look for the part of the seat belt that comes over the shoulder, and
>>>sans visual evidence, will pull you over hoping to pay for their Christmas
>>>party or win the office pool on who gets the most tickets.
>>>
>>>It may eventually be required to retrofit Corvairs with shoulder belts (my
>>>1969 Monza convertible had them as a "special order"), but as of now, if it
>>>didn't have them as <standard equipment., you are not required to have
>>>shoulder belts.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure if lap belts are required if the car didn't have them when new
>>>?  And would the cop/court be more interested in the potential revenue than
>>>reasonably interpreting the law?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>>>[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Bill H.
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:01 PM
>>>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>Subject: <VV> Someone is speeding, someone pays,so all is good
>>>
>>>                                            B"H
>>>
>>>I was stopped twice by cops.  First time, he cited for "not wearing a seat
>>>belt."  The two officers looked in and around the car, then looked through
>>>the open window and saw that I duly had my lap belt on.  "I see you ARE
>>>waring a belt, drive carefully, sir."   They're looking for a shoulder belt
>>>:=)
>>>
>>>Second time, two cops approached the car.  One told me he had made a bet
>>>with the other guy that the "motor was in the back" of my car, and he just
>>>wanted to verify.  Imagine getting pulled over by a cop car with flashing
>>>red lights just to verify where my engine was!
>>>
>>>He said he had a '67 a long time ago and asked me to show him the motor.  I
>>>guess he was happy because he had won the bet.
>>>
>>>Regards to all...Bill Hershkowitz 66 Monza Sport Sedan 110 PG A/C
>>>
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