<VV> New Oils for Classic cars

Fri Jun 3 23:31:03 EDT 2011

Eric, thanks. Thats good to know. No oil consumption issues. And the
change interval is close to what I had envisioned, however, I have a
spin on bypass filter I may see if it will fit, which has a 10 micron
SS screen for the big chunks and a treated paper filter that takes
particles down to 1 micron out. Mark Durham

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Eric S. Eberhard <flash at vicsmba.com> wrote:
> I never really noticed anything.  I change the oil at 100, 500, 1000, 5000
> and then every 5000 and I never had to add oil. Eric
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> At 02:04 PM 6/3/2011, Mark Durham wrote:
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>> Eric, too bad on the truck but a nice try. :):)
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>> Thanks for your expereince with the Mobil 1 15W50 oil. I'm about ready
>> to start my Corvair Engine I just overhauled, and its been a quandry
>> on which oil to install for the first runs.I can certainly see the
>> benefits of a slippery synthetic, it can only help preserve the cam
>> and lifter faces, but, how long did it take the engines to stabilize
>> oil use with break in with the synthetic? I know there are certain car
>> manufacturers that send out their cars with Mobil 1 in them from the
>> first mile, so I'm not biased one way or the other. I used to use a
>> 15W50 semi-synthetic in aircraft piston engines for breakin with no
>> trouble.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark Durham
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Eric S. Eberhard <flash at vicsmba.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I use Mobile 1 15-50 which says on the bottle "racing" and "flat
>> > tappet" -- interestingly enough some bottles say one, some say the
>> > other, some say both.  Their Web site says both on their chart and
>> > both phosphorous and zinc are over 1200 ppm.  I have used this for
>> > decades in everything from diesel trucks to tractors to
>> > Corvairs.  You can get it in 5 quart bottles cheap at Walmart, Napa,
>> > or Mobile stations -- which is why I prefer it over Amsoil.  There is
>> > valid argument for either over the other but Amsoil is hard to get,
>> > especially if on the road and you need to grab a quart.  Mobile 1 is
>> > safe for breaking in engines and the evidence to me on this ZDDP is
>> > clear.  Two of mine were rebuilt (by a shop) and they insisted it had
>> > to be broken in with Castrol 30 wgt.  Both of those got flat cams in
>> > 10,000 miles.  New cams from Clark's (identical cams) and break in
>> > with Mobile 1, 30k miles so far no problems.  A third I did initially
>> > with Mobil 1, 20k so far no problems.  Depending on the vehicle I
>> > change every 5k or 10k no matter how many years pass.  I have a 1980
>> > Toyota I bought new that has 230k and several Ford pickups over 120k
>> > and tractors with 10k hours ... the only problem is that I have no
>> > excuse to get a new car or tractor because they all run perfectly.  I
>> > had a speaker go out in my 99 diesel and my wife thought I should
>> > replace the speaker rather than get a new truck :-(  Eric
>> >
>> > At 09:00 AM 6/3/2011, you wrote:
>> >>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:42:28 -0400
>> >>From: Harry Smith <     >
>> >>Subject: Re: <VV> New Oils for Classic cars
>> >>To: Jim Houston <jhouston45 at gmail.com>
>> >>Cc: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> >>Message-ID: <BANLkTikakm8zBZ+3G4T+MY-B5Mjxn7OVqQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>> >>Intersting. I was discussing oil yesterday with a friend of mine and he
>> >> sent
>> >>me to a turbo website, Forced Performance. They had a nice chart on oil
>> >> with
>> >>brand, weight, amount of ZDDP and cost. I have attached it here.
>> >>Harry Smith
>> >>1963 Rampside
>> >>Coral Springs, FL
>> >
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> Eric S. Eberhard
> (928) 567-3727          Voice
> (928) 567-6122          Fax
> (928) 301-7537                           Cell
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> Vertical Integrated Computer Systems, LLC
> Metropolis Support, LLC
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> For Metropolis support and VICS MBA Support!!!!    http://www.vicsmba.com
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> Pictures of Snake in Spring
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=115547&id=1409661701&l=1c375e1f49
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> Pictures of Camp Verde
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=12771&id=1409661701&l=fc0e0a2bcf
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> Pictures of Land Cruiser in Sedona
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50953&id=1409661701
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> Pictures of Flagstaff area near our cabin
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=12750&id=1409661701
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> Pictures of Cheryl in a Horse Show
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=32484&id=1409661701
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> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=58827&id=1409661701
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