<VV> Oh say can you see, was: Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs

[Charles Lee]

... and even a much worse fate : a front engine !  Please, No-o-o-o-o ....


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To: "Charles Lee" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>; <scottygrover at aol.com>; 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: Oh say can you see, was: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs


>I wonder if they would do a "retro" Corvair the same way they did the new
> "retro" Camaro. It's got a great modern "retro" revision of the '69 
> Camaro,
> but it's a sedan. The original was a hardtop. Fact is, that is my biggest
> complaint about it, the Challenger, and even the Mustang. They're ALL
> sedans, not hardtops. The LM Corvairs were beautiful as hardtops, and to
> make them into sedans would ruin them.
>
> What's worse is illustrated by the quarter windows in the Camaro. Just 
> look
> at how much of the glass is blacked out, and what's behind all that black.
> On the inside you have a humoungous plastic trim panel that no doubt hides
> a lot of steel. My question is why? Especially since per square inch, 
> glass
> is heavier than steel, so you'd think that the weight-savers would be 
> going
> ballistic over putting glass over steel and hiding it with black paint on
> the glass and a trim panel on the inside.
>
> The result is that the outward vision is horrible. From the driver's seat,
> the right quarter window looks like a postage stamp, while you can't even
> see out the left quarter window. The blind spots are the size of semi
> trucks. I am imagining a lot of new Camaros are going to end up with rear
> end damage from people backing into things.
>
> That's the one thing the Corvair was always praised for, its outward view.
> Especially the LM 2door hardtop had great visibility. No "B" pillar, and
> thin "C" pillars. If a Corvair were done today, would it suffer the same
> fate as the Camaro? Would you end up with a 2door sedan with horrible
> rearward vision?
>
> -Mark
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProPer.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>>
>> The Corvair was beautiful then and still is, and a new "retro" version
> would
>> be unique because it would NOT have the antiquated FE/RWD package.
>>
>> A "retro" Corvair would be beautiful in its own right, not just because
> it
>> looks like the car you had in high school.
>>
>> I get annoyed at people who like the 60s Ford Falcons and put them in the
>> same category as the Corvair, simply because they're "old" !
>>
>> The Corvair is a "classic" for so many more reasons than other cars of
> that
>> era !
>>
>> OK, I'm finished (for now)
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <scottygrover at aol.com>
>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>>
>>
>> > He was possibly thinking of the Chrysler Airflow (also DeSoto) which
> is,
>> > to
>> > my mind, one of the ugliest cars around.  I don't think the Volkswagen
> had
>> > come over at that time.
>> > But the Tatra---the inspiration for the VW, and better styled as well
> as
>> > being aerodynamic--now that's beautiful, if rather strange-looking, and
> so
>> > is  the '53 Studebaker coupe, which is still in demand for cars trying
> for
>> > Bonneville records. Corvairs are, in their way, aerodynamic--it's just
>> > that
>> > the  prow wants to ride higher when it should be digging in for more
> air
>> > flow
>> > OVER  the car (like old-time battleships with the ram on the prow.)
>> >
>> > Scotty
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 1/19/2010 6:51:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> > airvair at earthlink.net writes:
>> >
>> > And as  far as modern cars being mundane, like Gordon Buehrig (the
> stylist
>> > of
>> > the  coffin-nose Cord) said about it, "aerodynamics makes for lousy
>> > styling."
>> >
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