<VV> Oh say can you see, was: Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs

[airvair at earthlink.net]

I wonder if they would do a "retro" Corvair the same way they did the new
"retro" Camaro. It's got a great modern "retro" revision of the '69 Camaro,
but it's a sedan. The original was a hardtop. Fact is, that is my biggest
complaint about it, the Challenger, and even the Mustang. They're ALL
sedans, not hardtops. The LM Corvairs were beautiful as hardtops, and to
make them into sedans would ruin them.

What's worse is illustrated by the quarter windows in the Camaro. Just look
at how much of the glass is blacked out, and what's behind all that black.
On the inside you have a humoungous plastic trim panel that no doubt hides
a lot of steel. My question is why? Especially since per square inch, glass
is heavier than steel, so you'd think that the weight-savers would be going
ballistic over putting glass over steel and hiding it with black paint on
the glass and a trim panel on the inside.

The result is that the outward vision is horrible. From the driver's seat,
the right quarter window looks like a postage stamp, while you can't even
see out the left quarter window. The blind spots are the size of semi
trucks. I am imagining a lot of new Camaros are going to end up with rear
end damage from people backing into things.

That's the one thing the Corvair was always praised for, its outward view.
Especially the LM 2door hardtop had great visibility. No "B" pillar, and
thin "C" pillars. If a Corvair were done today, would it suffer the same
fate as the Camaro? Would you end up with a 2door sedan with horrible
rearward vision?

-Mark


> [Original Message]
> From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProPer.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>
> The Corvair was beautiful then and still is, and a new "retro" version
would 
> be unique because it would NOT have the antiquated FE/RWD package.
>
> A "retro" Corvair would be beautiful in its own right, not just because
it 
> looks like the car you had in high school.
>
> I get annoyed at people who like the 60s Ford Falcons and put them in the 
> same category as the Corvair, simply because they're "old" !
>
> The Corvair is a "classic" for so many more reasons than other cars of
that 
> era !
>
> OK, I'm finished (for now)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <scottygrover at aol.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>
>
> > He was possibly thinking of the Chrysler Airflow (also DeSoto) which
is, 
> > to
> > my mind, one of the ugliest cars around.  I don't think the Volkswagen
had
> > come over at that time.
> > But the Tatra---the inspiration for the VW, and better styled as well 
as
> > being aerodynamic--now that's beautiful, if rather strange-looking, and
so
> > is  the '53 Studebaker coupe, which is still in demand for cars trying
for
> > Bonneville records. Corvairs are, in their way, aerodynamic--it's just 
> > that
> > the  prow wants to ride higher when it should be digging in for more
air 
> > flow
> > OVER  the car (like old-time battleships with the ram on the prow.)
> >
> > Scotty
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/19/2010 6:51:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > airvair at earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > And as  far as modern cars being mundane, like Gordon Buehrig (the
stylist
> > of
> > the  coffin-nose Cord) said about it, "aerodynamics makes for lousy
> > styling."
> >
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