<VV> coil wiring help needed

Mon Aug 2 22:29:30 EDT 2010

Thanks Charlie, I didn't recognize the name, but, the advice was good!
Mark Durham

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Charles Lee <Chaz at properproper.com> wrote:

>  That would be "Charlie" not "Chalice" - victim of not catching
> spell-check when I mistyped "Charlie" without the "r" and it mis-corrected
> it !
>
> I was an "altar boy" way back, but I didn't take any souvenirs !
>
> Charlie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark Durham <62vair at gmail.com>
> *To:* Charles Lee <Chaz at properproper.com>
> *Cc:* Ray "Grymm" Rodriguez <vairguy at echoes.net> ; corvair<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, August 02, 2010 7:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: <VV> coil wiring help needed
>
> Ray, chalice's diagram matches the 63 diagram I have in my 62-63 GM
> supplament manual to the 61.
>
> However, you will get caught out if you think there is a need for the
> resister block. They were used on the turbo and 64 up models, I think. The
> 63 resister is actually a resistence wire that runs from a plug clear back
> in the left front corner where the wiring plugs are, and lays with the rest
> of the wire bundle along the left of the engine box, just under the battery.
>
> My late 62 has a 63 wiring harness in it from the factory. I found the
> resistence wire because one day it overheated and smoked itself on me.  If
> you do a search of the bundle, you should see a wire at the left rear of the
> bundle where the left tail light wires leave, or close to there, that
> doubles back on itself. That is the resistence wire.
>
> I just replaced the wire from the plug and bought a generic 12 volt coil
> rather than replace the resister, but then I am running a Pertronix II which
> can take up to 16 volts.
>
> At the Distributer area.
>
> 1. The Yellow wire goes to the + on the coil.
> 2. The second wire goes first to the engine temp sender, then on to the oil
> pressure switch. It is the 12 volt wire, both of these units close the
> circuit when there is low oil pressure or overtemp, and turn on the light.
> 3. A wire comes off the - on the coil and goes to the distributer.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Mark Durham
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Charles Lee <Chaz at properproper.com>wrote:
>
>> I am not certain if this diagram is specific enough for an early model
>> 1963,
>> but it may help ?
>> If any VV'er can add whether or not it applies, or add to this, please
>> chime
>> in !
>>
>> If I can update this diagram, or make another that is more relevant to an
>> early model, please let me know that too ?
>>
>> http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/CorvairIgnitionWiring.htm
>>
>> Thanks
>> chalice
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray "Grymm" Rodriguez" <vairguy at echoes.net>
>> To: "corvair" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:02 AM
>> Subject: <VV> coil wiring help needed
>>
>>
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to figure out the wiring for the coil on the 63'....  I dont
>> > have a 63' manual yet and since the wiring was tampered with at some
>> point
>> > it's not self evident which wire goes where.
>> >
>> > First question:  I believe this car should have an external resistor not
>> a
>> > resistor wire.....I have a resistor for it but want to make sure it
>> > belongs in the circuit and that I have it connected to the right wire.
>> > Please confirm that I need one and which color wire it goes on.
>> >
>> > I have four wires coming out of the harness near the coil.  Two go to a
>> > "T" shaped plug that should be for the right side tail light... a black
>> > wire and a purple wire.
>> >
>> > Of the two remaining one is yellow and one is dark blue or black and hot
>> > with ignition at run.  Which goes where?
>> >
>> > Now I thought the yellow wire was for the coil...  and lead back to the
>> > plug at the firewall where the yellow wire comes up from the starter
>> > solenoid, but that wire is not (even at the solenoid) hot with the
>> > ignition at run.
>> >
>> > Based on my memory this could make sense as this could be the line that
>> > supplies a straight 12v shot to the coil when cranking for hotter
>> spark...
>> > and that would mean both the dark blue (or black) and yellow wires go to
>> > the coil..... but.....  then what wire connects to the single plug
>> coming
>> > up from near the harmonic balancer (oil pressure?)?  If both these wires
>> > go the coil there appear to be no wires left to connect to that plug.
>> >
>> > Ray "Grymm" Rodriguez III
>> > Lake Ariel, PA
>> > CORSA member
>> > 66' Corsa 140/4 coupe
>> > 65' Corsa 140/4 coupe (under construction and almost done!)
>> > 63' Monza PG coupe (under construction- quickie driver build)
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