<VV> Power from manual top - LM

[J R Read_HML]

I suspect the EM an LM top frames are different - at least in width and 
maybe other ways as well.

If we are talking about (I think the original question) making an original 
LM manual top operate as a power top, there IS an issue with the "tip 
point?" - "break point?" - whatever you wish to call it.  I think that 
problem is solved by either:

1. (easy way) While holding the top button in the DOWN position with the 
left hand, reach up and push upward on the front top bow in order to be sure 
that the front portion (1/3rd?) of the top tips rearward.  If this is not 
done, the top will not fold and the mechanism will bind up with (probably) 
nasty results.

2. (more like stock way) There is a difference in the rear attachment points 
of the wire (cable really) which runs along (near?) the outer edge of the 
top fabric.  The power top has a small "trip mechanism?" and a shorter cable 
than the manual top.  If a power motor is added to what was originally a 
manual top - the motion described above (in # 1) will be needed OR the cable 
and extra (appropriate) attachment part needs to be added.

Several years ago, one of our VV members (Canadian?) posted pics of a resto 
he was doing (LM) and had questions about a mystery part.  Turns out it was 
the "trip" for the power top.  I've got close to 20 pics stored about that. 
If you need, please contact off line.

Later, JR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jimster1" <jimster1 at earthlink.net>
To: "'Bryan Blackwell'" <bryan at skiblack.com>; "'Mike Jacobi'" 
<mvjacobi at comcast.net>
Cc: "'virtual Vairs'" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Corvair on November 11


> You are correct, the power top frame, at least on lates is different from
> manual frames.  The only kink, is you need to give the top a little push 
> as
> it's going down to "break" the first joint in the frame.  After that, it's
> smooth sailing.  Powering up is no problem.
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Blackwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:53 PM
> To: Mike Jacobi
> Cc: virtual Vairs
> Subject: Re: <VV> Corvair on November 11
>
> Caveat - I have never owned a convert, early or late, so this is
> second hand.  I have heard that there is a difference in the power and
> non-power top frames, to give a little more leverage to the motor.  I
> *think* this applies to late models, not sure about earlies.
>
> --Bryan
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Mike Jacobi wrote:
>
>> Veterans Day dawned bright dry and pretty warm so I took the 63
>> Monza Vert
>> for a little ride.  Even had the top down!
>>
>> And that brought up a thought.  Has anyone ever retro fitted a power
>> mechanism to a non power from the factory, vert top?  Like to hear
>> from
>> someone who has tried it whether its a hard job?  (I'm fameous for
>> jumping
>> on where angels fear to tread, on jobs that really weren't worth the
>> trouble)
>
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