<VV> 1965 GM manual (page 6Y-19, Fig 8i) Spark Plug Wire Placement question

[Charles Lee]

That's what I thought, but I've never heard this mentioned before, so I
figured it must be me !

http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/CorvairManualPlugWirePlacement
Errors.jpg



-----Original Message-----
From: Western Canada CORSA [mailto:westerncanadacorsa at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:55 PM
To: 'Charles Lee'; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: RE: <VV> 1965 GM manual (page 6Y-19,Fig 8i) Spark Plug Wire
Placement question


Good question!  On all the 'vairs I've ever worked on #1 is more around
where the 3/4 wires are placed in that diagram.

Regards,
Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Charles Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:38 PM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: <VV> 1965 GM manual (page 6Y-19,Fig 8i) Spark Plug Wire
Placement question



Is this diagram correct ?

This is from the GM manual (page 6Y-19, Fig 8i) for 1965 for spark plug
wire placement, but it looks wrong ?

http://www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/CorvairManualPlugWirePlacement
Errors.jpg
What do you think ?

Maybe this is an early edition of the manual before they corrected it ?
Or am I looking at it upside-down or something ?

Thanks for proofing it for me,
Charlie


-----Original Message-----
From: Spence Shepard [mailto:sshepard3 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:35 PM
To: Charles Lee
Subject: Re: <VV> How to 'cold set' ignition timing ? 1967 Monza 110 PG


Charles,

The timing must be set when #1 piston is at TDC on the compressions
stoke. 
You need to determine than like I said below.

When you get it there the rotor should be pointing to the #1 position on
the

distributor cap. It probably isn't right now. Remove the distributor and
put

it back in with the rotor pointed at #1. It won't go all the way down 
because the tang on the end of the distributor shaft won't line up with
the 
oil pump. You'll need to turn the engine over until the distributor
falls 
into the pump. It will help if you have someone turn the engine while
you 
push down on the distributor. Once it goes down install the piece that
locks

it in place. Leave the nut a little loose so you can turn the
distributor.

Check the position of the distributor again with the mark on the damper
at 0

degrees. If it is about 180 degrees from #1 on the cap, turn the engine 
around one time. Set the distributor so that the rotor lines up with #1
on 
the cap. Tighten the nut enough so that the distributor  will stay in
place.

Install the cap and start the engine. Set the timing with a timing
light. 
Remember to set it with the vacuum to the advance disconnected.

Good luck,

Spence
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Lee" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
To: "'Spence Shepard'" <sshepard3 at earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: <VV> How to 'cold set' ignition timing ? 1967 Monza 110 PG


> The distributor was removed and the engine turned manually.
>
> I have set the crank to TDC #1 (Is this mechanically the same
> regardless of stroke ?)
>
> I then re-installed the distributor with the rotor pointing (slightly
> downward) to #1 cylinder.
>
> I then rotate the distributor about 1/4 of the way CCW between #1 and
> #6 (which is about 14 degrees, right ?)
>
> Question ?? --> Should the rotor point straight forward, or slightly
> down to # cylinder ?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spence Shepard [mailto:sshepard3 at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 4:38 PM
> To: Charles Lee
> Subject: Re: <VV> How to 'cold set' ignition timing ? 1967 Monza 110
> PG
>
>
> Charles,
>
> You first need to get #1 at TDC (top dead center) on the compression
> stroke. Remove #1 plug and turn engine until you can feel (with a 
> finger in the plug
> hole) compression (tries to blow finger out). Continue turning until 
> timing mark on damper is at 0 degrees. Now set timing like you 
> described.
>
> If the distributor has been removed you need to place it so the rotor
> is
>
> where you want #1. It is usually near straight back.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Spence Shepard
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Lee" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:45 PM
> Subject: <VV> How to 'cold set' ignition timing ? 1967 Monza 110 PG
>
>
>> On my 1967 Monza 110 PG, I have :
>>
>> 1-Fuel to the carb inlets (I can see the streams)
>>   (Plus a little starting fluid in each carb)
>>
>> 2-Spark to the plugs (which is why the wrench I was holding is now in
>> my neighbor's yard)
>>
>> 3-SethRacer's wires are in the correct order (1-4-5-2-3-6 CW)
>>
>> 4-Crank set to TDC & distributor rotor points to #1
>>
>> 5-Distributor cap #1 wire is a bit CCW of where rotor points to #1
>>
>> Hmmmm ...
>>
>> Looks like the only thing missing is timing -
>> -- how do I set the initial position of the distributor ?
>>
>> I want to get it set up right, so as not to kill the battery trying !
>>
>> Thanks
>> Charlie
>> 1967 Monza 110 PG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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