<VV> Weber IDAs? Dellortos?
Sethracer at aol.com
Sethracer at aol.com
Mon Jan 22 23:58:36 EST 2007
In a message dated 1/22/2007 4:46:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jwcorvair at aol.com writes:
Is anyone running a pair of dual throat IDAs on their engine where the IDA
is attached to the manifold through an adapter to the single carb mount? Has
anyone modified the manifold on a Corvair cylinder head to accept a dual
throat IDA? I know that Warren LeVeque offers a DCOE modified for progressive
operation on turbo engines; has anyone modified an IDA for progressive
operation? (Basically the same carb, just vertical instead of horizontal.)
In my experience, this would be a competition only set-up. I have seen two
cars run that set up, the two down-draft 40 IDA 2-barrels, although,
technically, each carb fed a plenum that then fed the cylinders witha separate tube.
Sort of like the bolt-on, but the plenum was lifted higher off the motor. Both
cars were race cars. The first one was the "Silver Fox"an SCCA winning tube
framed sports racer with a mid-engined Corvair. It was converted to a
Holley-carbed supercharged set-up, as it remains today, I believe. The carb/manifold
set up was installed on Louie Lira's 64 autocross car. I believe he has
moved away from it, but I am not sure, I haven't seen the car run in several
years. I ran a similar set-up on a Street-Prepared autocross Corvair. I used
Dellorto 40 MM downdrafts - almost a clone of the 40 IDA Weber, with small stacks
adapting them to the stock carb pads. However, since, at the time, nobody
was converting the Webers (or Dellortos) to progressive operation, in order to
have any off throttle operation, the secondary chokes in the carbs had to be
greatly reduced in size from how they were operated in a tuned port (single
port per cylinder) operation. When a balance had been reached, I was down to
around 28-30mm chokes - around 1 and one-quarter inches. Sound familiar? All
out performance was on a par with a set of good Rochesters. Cornering power
was definitely better. But the car was very cold-blooded, and, although it
would keep running on start-up, still had poor off idle throttle response. Woe to
the driver that tried to sneak away from the line. It would just die, unless
the hammer was dropped with the RPM up. (Fun, actually, but not for the
street) I can testify that it is the same effect that you see when all four
Rochesters are ganged to open together. I would attempt this setup only if
progressive linkage was installed on each carb, or if you are using Fuel injection
throttle bodies to serve up the correct fuel mixture, instead of carbs. - Seth
Emerson
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