<VV> Turbo Boost

Wed May 10 12:43:23 EDT 2006

Turbo No Boost

Corvair guys, I´m Gino From Colombia, I just finished rebuilt a Turbo 180 
Engine, the itself has been rebuilt by Larry Claypool(it is good), but I 
can´t get any boost from the turbo, Im located at 8600 Ft Above Sea Level, I 
have others Vair 140 and 110 and the turbo engine is smooth, All the exhaust 
outlets has been  tighten anc checked with soap solution and look Ok but 
ther is no Boost at all, What you suggest  To me??

Regards

Gino Callegari M
65 Cvt, (140, 4 Sp), 66 Cp (Turbo??? , 4 Sp), 66 4 Door (110, 4 Sp), 66 4 
Door(110, Auto)
gcallegari at insepet.com
Bogota, Colombia
South America.

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>   1. Re: ballast (Jim Houston)
>   2. re:Trailering/Tiedown (Andrew Allen)
>   3. re:Trailering/Tiedown (Andrew Allen)
>   4. Re: Help Save #311 (Ultravan) (Larry Forman)
>   5. Re: 'vert ballast (Padgett)
>   6. Re: Old Flame Speed (Padgett)
>   7. Re: Turbo engine removal (Tony Underwood)
>   8. Re: ballast (BBRT)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 08:10:31 -0400
> From: Jim Houston <tampatexan at tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> ballast
> To: Frank DuVal <corvairduval at cox.net>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, ron67ran at hotmail.com, LonzoVair at aol.com
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> Yes, transverse engines (at least Classic Minis) has a "rear" main
> seal.  It's located on the right side of the engine behind the flywheel.
>
> As far as Left and Right -- maybe we should use the British system:
> Nearside and Offside...  :-D     What do you think, Bill Elliott?
>
> Jim Houston
> Brandon, FL
>
> Frank DuVal wrote:
>> I agree that the right/left of a vehicle should be from the driver's
>> perspective, and front rear logically is also.
>>
>> So, the rear main seal is in the front of a Corvair engine.... :-)
>>
>> But the marks on the pistons point to the front of the car! This
>> proves your point is understood by GM engineers.
>>
>> That is why I use the terms bellhousing crank seal and rear housing
>> crank seal. "Front" seal is too ambiguous, especially when used by a
>> newbie.
>>
>> So do transverse engines have rear main seals?
>>
>> BTW, when you were standing in front of him and writing, you were
>> using your hand that was on his left side! My wife (left handed) said
>> she learned how to knit by sitting across from a right hand person and
>> mimicking what she saw.
>>
>> Frank DuVal
>>
>> LonzoVair at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 5/9/2006 10:21:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> corvairduval at cox.net writes:
>>>
>>> By  front, do you mean the front of the car (as in crankshaft seal
>>> at  flywheel) or front of the engine (crankshaft seal at harmonic
>>> balancer)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oooooh... that's one of my biggest pet peeves... the FRONT of the
>>> engine is  the part with the bell housing on it... the REAR of the
>>> engine is where the HB is... and the motor mount, and the oil
>>> filter.... I get the same thing from those pesky Saab owners... just
>>> because the water  pump is at the firewall it does NOT make that the
>>> front of the engine....
>>> I wonder how E.L. Cord handled this, since his cars were front wheel
>>> drive,  but the engine was behind the differential...
>>> The same bunch of people almost always like to reverse the sides of
>>> the car, too... "It's the left rear molding"... "Show me" I'd say....
>>> they  would take me to the right side of the car and say "See, that
>>> one"... "Hey  buddy, that's the RIGHT SIDE of the car..."... I had
>>> one say "Not when I'm  standing in front of it"..... I had to explain
>>> to the guy that even though  I was writing down something while he
>>> stood in front of me I was NOT using my  left hand to write with...
>>> what a maroon!
>>> It's nothing against you, Frank... and you might have done that to
>>> make a  point, but PLEASE PEOPLE, the REAR of the engine is what you
>>> see when you stand  BEHIND the car/truck/van/station wagon and raise
>>> the deck lid... you know, THE  TRUNK!
>>> :-)
>>> And you DON'T want to get me started on those hillbillies who use the
>>> word  IDEAL in place of IDEA... Later,
>>> Lonzo.... LITERATE HILLBILLY
>>> Lon Anderson  in White Mills, KY
>>> CORSA, Corvanatics, Derby City Corvair, Central Ky  Corvair
>>> Quart Low Quarterly Editor
>>> 1961 Greenbrier 110/pg
>>> 1963  Greenbrier 110/4spd
>>> 1964 700 sedan 95/pg
>>> 1969 Monza  110/pg
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 06:00:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Andrew Allen <andyman260 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: <VV> re:Trailering/Tiedown
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> Towed my LM from Chicago to Vermont near Albany, NY.
> Rented U-Haul auto trailer with tandem axles and
> barkes. Car backwards for tongue weight, 6 ratchet tie
> down straps, two looped though center of front
> crossmember, two with axle straps aroung half shafts
> and two around lower control arms. Trailer came with
> tire webbing so I used those too. Checked everything
> at every gas stop and drove through several really bad
> thunderstorms. No problems. Used my 5.4L Expedition as
> tow vehicle.
>
> Be Careful!
>
> Andy
> '66 A/C Corsa
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 06:01:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Andrew Allen <andyman260 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: <VV> re:Trailering/Tiedown
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> Towed my LM from Chicago to Vermont near Albany, NY.
> Rented U-Haul auto trailer with tandem axles and
> barkes. Car backwards for tongue weight, 6 ratchet tie
> down straps, two looped though center of front
> crossmember, two with axle straps aroung half shafts
> and two around lower control arms. Trailer came with
> tire webbing so I used those too. Checked everything
> at every gas stop and drove through several really bad
> thunderstorms. No problems. Used my 5.4L Expedition as
> tow vehicle.
>
> Be Careful!
>
> Andy
> '66 A/C Corsa
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 06:20:56 -0700
> From: Larry Forman <Larry at Forman.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Help Save #311 (Ultravan)
> To: Greg Shaw <65vair180 at sbcglobal.net>,virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20060510062000.030b64d0 at getmail.forman.net>
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> I am thinking about getting this!  I need to call TODAY and see what I can
> do.  I live in Sacramento, CA, so it might be possible.
>
> I'll act quickly.
>
> Larry
>
> At 07:50 PM 5/9/2006 -0700, Greg Shaw wrote:
>>   I would like to save #311. I sent Mark Roberts a note and he still has
>> it. I live in Michigan and can't afford the shipping and don't have
>> immediate storage. Would anybody be interested in teaming up to save
>> #311? I've sent a note to the Detroit Club for the same reason. I'd pay
>> the $500 to get it for the musuem worst case.  Any takers?  Greg
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:01:10 -0400
> From: Padgett <pp2 at 6007.us>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 'vert ballast
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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>
>> > picked up my new vair in Brenham last saturday.  the previous owner
>> > removed what appear to be ballast weights from the 4 corners--
>
> Can see the need for two in front to reduce cowl shake but do the ones in
> the back do very much ? Do know of some GM 'verts that were considered
> "unacceptable" for retail sale as late as 1991 despite the cocktail 
> shakers.
>
> Would suggest that you drive without and see if acceptable because 100 lbs
> (all four) is A Lot in a 'vair.
>
> Padgett
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:16:46 -0400
> From: Padgett <pp2 at 6007.us>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Old Flame Speed
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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>
>>Octane, in common laymans terms has always been, "resistance to self 
>>ignition
>>under pressure / heat"
>>
>>Once ignited...the fuel's characteristics and chamber design determine how
>>fast it propagates.
>
> Completely true but when I learned about gasoline fuels,  one of the
> "fuel's characteristics" was that the higher the octane, the slower the
> burn rate and was a byproduct of "resistance to self ignition"). Has this
> changed ? Otherwise why would we advance the timing for hi octane and
> retard it for low ?
>
> Probably few remember now but back in the early '70s, cars that did not
> stop running when the key was turned off were common. One trick that
> sometimes worked was to put in gear (add load) and floor it (cooling shot
> from the accelerator pump). Sometimes it didn't. Often a cloud of really
> eye burning smoke emitted when it did stop. Embarrassing for new Cadillac
> owners.
>
> GM's answer back then was a solenoid to hold the throttle open to the idle
> point when the key was on and would shut the throttle all the way when
> turned off. That worked until fuel injection became common and turning the
> key off also stopped the injectors. Once had a Fiero that would have a ded
> battery if it sat for several days (usually at the airport parking 
> garage).
> Turned out a PO had hotwired the electronic ignition so it was always on
> and what stopped the engine was the injectors.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:27:14 -0700
> From: Tony Underwood <tonyu at roava.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Turbo engine removal
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> At 10:54 hours 05/09/2006, Guus de Haan wrote:
>
>>There's a big difference between the US and Holland as automotive
>>stuff is concerned. The US market is simply that much bigger so a
>>company can make a living. Last saturday I went to two automotive
>>stores to see what kind of timing lights they had (my old one is a
>>bit unreliable). I was done quickly, they had none! With modern cars
>>needing much less maintenance, these shops have all shifted to audio
>>and wash and shine stuff it seems. Of course I can get a new one, but
>>not in the regular shops anymore. The Times They Are A-Chanin' (B.
>>Dylan ;-)
>
>
>
>
> They sure are.
>
> However, changes are starting to regress, it seems.    There's a
> growing trend here "stateside" towards rescuing older cars from the
> '60s and '70s, particularly cars with a performance image, to the
> point that people are today going to old junkyards and pulling out
> cars that 5 years ago they looked at before and decided it wasn't
> worth it...  today they're going back and pulling those same cars out
> after an additional 5 years of weathering and *paying more* for the
> privilege.
>
> Today on the way to work I saw a rollback transporting a '71 Dodge
> Charger, dirty, dull paint sprinkled with a patina of surface rust,
> still had weeds sticking to the bumpers and rocker trim where it had
> been sitting long enough to have become overgrown with all manner of
> bushes and vines.    Another vintage car rescued from oblivion.
>
> However...  It's getting harder to turn up older cars these days from
> the "regular" sources because most of them have already been snapped
> up.   Corvairs are included in this mix.    And, of course, the
> source is finite.   Eventually there's gonna be a dry-up of
> restoration projects because they'll either have been junked/scrapped
> or already rescued, and the few remaining viable projects still
> available will increase steadily in value as they become more and
> more scarce.
>
> The 150 buck Corvair bargain is rapidly becoming a thing of the
> past.   If you wanna rescue an older car these days you're gonna have
> to pay.   And people will pay.
>
> More and more of these old cars are showing up on the highways on
> weekends.    They're becoming trendy again... and along with the
> ongoing interests here for restoring or refurbishing a vintage car,
> the aftermarket and hotrod shops are starting to stock "older style"
> performance stuff again...  the Auto Zone down the road from me is
> selling chromed valve covers for most Fords and big block Chrysler
> engines, and the venerable Carter AFB 4xbbl carb has been resurrected
> for many years now, marketed by Weber, Edelbrock, etc.    There are
> even performance parts showing back up for other less well
> established vintage muscle cars like Buick and Olds and AMC (rather
> than just the smallblock Chevy) as well as Chrysler performance
> stuff.  It's been a long time since I've seen such for sale in any
> FLAPS but it's starting to come back.   I'm gonna be stopping in and
> picking up a pair of those chrome valve covers for the '66 Plymouth
> Satellite.    (I can't help but wonder if they're made in China...;) )
>
>
> Pity the US musclecar enthusiasts in Europe (there *are* musclecar
> gearheads in places like France, Britain, Germany etc) who have to
> "worship from afar" and end up ordering parts from the USA to support
> their habit.      And *we* here stateside complain about the costs of
> parts.   They have to endure not only the increasing expense but
> shipping across the pond as well.    Of course, it costs as much to
> ship a Corvair starter across the ocean is it costs to ship a starter
> for a Dodge Challenger R/T.
>
> I bet Thomas and Guus and Phillipe (among others) can testify to the
> expense they have to deal with when chasing down Corvair parts.
>
>
> There's another fellow in France (on another list) who owns a
> "tweaked" Plymouth GTX 440 6-Pak (where he found it is a mystery to
> me) who has had some interesting experiences not only with
> maintaining the car but with the attention that a beast like that GTX
> attracts when he drives it anywhere...  11 miles per gallon which in
> France costs about twice what we're paying here.
>
>
> I compare such people in those distant places to the guys here in the
> USA who attempt to become involved with Austin Minis and rear
> engine'd Fiats and small exotics like Lotus or older
> Porsches...  trying to find parts becomes a bit of an adventure.
>
>
> I could only imagine what a Corvair owner in Finland would have to
> deal with if he needed, for instance, something as simple as a carb
> overhaul kit unless he had some connections with US vendors... and if
> he didn't speak English he'd have even more issues to deal with.
>
> I don't speak Italian; without some connections I cultivated via the
> Internet I'd never have managed to turn up a ton (literally) of Fiat
> 600 (and a few 850 Fiat) parts.
>
>
> I'd imagine that this list is a considerable connection for guys
> across the big pond, as far as the sources for Corvair parts are
> concerned.   For that matter, I tend to associate the boom in
> rescuing older US cars with the Internet being able to provide
> resources and locations to multitudes of available cars and parts
> which *will* sell, providing their availability is made known to
> enough people...  like the Ebay ferrets who will scan daily Ebay
> Motors looking for a deal on one thing or another.
>
> ...I'm one of them.    ;)
>
>
>
> tony..
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:37:08 -0400
> From: "BBRT" <chsadek at adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> ballast
> To: "Jim Houston" <tampatexan at tampabay.rr.com>, "Frank DuVal"
> <corvairduval at cox.net>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, ron67ran at hotmail.com, LonzoVair at aol.com
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> So I presume "near side" would be their driver's side and our passenger
> side? That ought to clear things up!  LOL!
>
> Chuck S
> BBRT
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Houston" <tampatexan at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Frank DuVal" <corvairduval at cox.net>
> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; <ron67ran at hotmail.com>; 
> <LonzoVair at aol.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> ballast
>
>
>> Yes, transverse engines (at least Classic Minis) has a "rear" main seal.
>> It's located on the right side of the engine behind the flywheel.
>> As far as Left and Right -- maybe we should use the British system:
>> Nearside and Offside...  :-D     What do you think, Bill Elliott?
>>
>> Jim Houston
>> Brandon, FL
>>
>> Frank DuVal wrote:
>>> I agree that the right/left of a vehicle should be from the driver's
>>> perspective, and front rear logically is also.
>>>
>>> So, the rear main seal is in the front of a Corvair engine.... :-)
>>>
>>> But the marks on the pistons point to the front of the car! This proves
>>> your point is understood by GM engineers.
>>>
>>> That is why I use the terms bellhousing crank seal and rear housing 
>>> crank
>>> seal. "Front" seal is too ambiguous, especially when used by a newbie.
>>>
>>> So do transverse engines have rear main seals?
>>>
>>> BTW, when you were standing in front of him and writing, you were using
>>> your hand that was on his left side! My wife (left handed) said she
>>> learned how to knit by sitting across from a right hand person and
>>> mimicking what she saw.
>>>
>>> Frank DuVal
>>>
>>> LonzoVair at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 5/9/2006 10:21:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> corvairduval at cox.net writes:
>>>>
>>>> By  front, do you mean the front of the car (as in crankshaft seal at
>>>> flywheel) or front of the engine (crankshaft seal at harmonic
>>>> balancer)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oooooh... that's one of my biggest pet peeves... the FRONT of the 
>>>> engine
>>>> is  the part with the bell housing on it... the REAR of the engine is
>>>> where the HB is... and the motor mount, and the oil filter.... I get 
>>>> the
>>>> same thing from those pesky Saab owners... just because the water  pump
>>>> is at the firewall it does NOT make that the front of the engine....
>>>> I wonder how E.L. Cord handled this, since his cars were front wheel
>>>> drive,  but the engine was behind the differential...
>>>> The same bunch of people almost always like to reverse the sides of 
>>>> the
>>>> car, too... "It's the left rear molding"... "Show me" I'd say.... they
>>>> would take me to the right side of the car and say "See, that one"...
>>>> "Hey  buddy, that's the RIGHT SIDE of the car..."... I had one say "Not
>>>> when I'm  standing in front of it"..... I had to explain to the guy 
>>>> that
>>>> even though  I was writing down something while he stood in front of me
>>>> I was NOT using my  left hand to write with... what a maroon!
>>>> It's nothing against you, Frank... and you might have done that to make
>>>> a  point, but PLEASE PEOPLE, the REAR of the engine is what you see 
>>>> when
>>>> you stand  BEHIND the car/truck/van/station wagon and raise the deck
>>>> lid... you know, THE  TRUNK!
>>>> :-)
>>>> And you DON'T want to get me started on those hillbillies who use the
>>>> word  IDEAL in place of IDEA... Later,
>>>> Lonzo.... LITERATE HILLBILLY Lon Anderson  in White Mills, KY
>>>> CORSA, Corvanatics, Derby City Corvair, Central Ky  Corvair
>>>> Quart Low Quarterly Editor
>>>> 1961 Greenbrier 110/pg
>>>> 1963  Greenbrier 110/4spd
>>>> 1964 700 sedan 95/pg
>>>> 1969 Monza  110/pg
>>>>
>>>>
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