<VV> Greenbrier Questions

[Thomas L. Gywther]

I am planning on a big bore (w/VW cylinders) on a late FC block with 110 
heads when I can get the money together.

I want torque too! (as much as I can get)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Hanlin" <g.hanlin at earthlink.net>
To: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Greenbrier Questions


>I will echo Brian's comments about the engine.  164cid is good.  We have a 
>'63 Deluxe Greenbrier, with original drivetrain - 102HP, 3.89:1 posi rear 
>end, and powerglide.  Some nut must have ordered it that way thinking the 
>extra HP would be good - I would rather have torque.  Imagine how long it 
>takes us to get up to freeway speed.  Once you are there, it isn't too bad, 
>but acceleration is leisurely at best.  The engine is developing some 
>blowby at cruising speed, so I think a 164 cubic inch FC engine is in our 
>future.
>
> The best thing about the Greenbrier is that the kid's car seats are two 
> rows behind you - they are not shouting in your ear and can't kick the 
> back of your seat!
>
> Greg Hanlin
> Dayton OH
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bryan Blackwell" <bryan at skiblack.com>
> To: "Steven J. Serenska" <sjs at banksurance.com>
> Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Greenbrier Questions
>
>
>> I'll expand a little on Rad's comments too.  The Deluxe really is a lot 
>> nicer, it's possible to convert a standard over but you need to swap the 
>> window regulators.  Brakes are often a point of concern for those 
>> unfamiliar with FCs, but as Rad says with good shoes they really do 
>> stop - I've had no issues even fully loaded down a long grade.  We have 
>> the Underground's high end Kevlar shoes, I'm sure that all of the 
>> vendors' top of the line shoes would perform just fine too.
>>
>> On the stick vs PG, bear in mind that mostly we were looking for a really 
>> solid van more than anything else.  Ours is a fully loaded (such as they 
>> were) '64 Deluxe.  I'll say that if you're going to drive one with a PG 
>> and use it as intended (kids, dog, baseball gear, camping, appliances, 
>> etc.) then you really want a 164 ci engine in it.  The smaller engines 
>> will work with a stick, but even then the extra torque is nice.  If 
>> you're going to go up and down a lot of hills, then the four speed is 
>> better - third is just perfect.  In the rolling hills of Virginia it's 
>> not an issue, but when you get into the mountains there are places where 
>> low is too low and high is too high.  For around town the PG is great, 
>> and you have the advantage of using the middle of the front bench for a 
>> passenger.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>> On May 31, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Rad Davis wrote:
>>
>>> So that's where to look for rust and how to prevent it if you get a 
>>> creampuff.  Really bad rust in the cab area can get to be a structural 
>>> problem.  Practically anywhere else a van commonly rusts is not 
>>> structurally an issue because everything is welded to an open-channel 
>>> ladder frame under the floor.  Deluxes came with rubber mats, which 
>>> start to rot the floor when the weatherstripping and dum-dum in the roof 
>>> joints begins to leak.  OTOH, deluxes are nicer inside - more car-like.
>>>
>>> Brakes are fine if good shoes are used and the system is properly 
>>> maintained.  I prefer a four-speed, but Bryan's been driving a 
>>> powerglide brier for a long time and seems happy with it.  I think this 
>>> one comes down to personal preference.
>>
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