<VV> Correction > 1966 corsa 4-speed crunch 1st-2nd

[BBRT]

Andy,

You are right; brain fade . I was thinking of going from 3rd to 2nd. Don't 
know why I read it that way...age? ;>)
I agree. Without slop in the linkage, it is the brass blocker ring, in all 
probability.  So suggest the check on the shifting system, though. If we 
aren't getting enough travel, it will "churn" the gears.... Rest of my 
comments stand.  Just disregard the ramblings re 3rd to 2nd-unless that is 
your problem... BTW, finding 2nd can be a problem and some use a block-out 
to keep the shift lever from going to far left and not being able to engage 
the gear.

Chuck S
BBRT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Clark" <slowboat at mindspring.com>
To: "vv" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> 1966 corsa 4-speed crunch 1st-2nd


> Uhhhh..... Pulling from 1st to 2nd does not rotate the shift tube. When 
> you
> are in 1st, the internal transmission shift fork has already been selected
> for the 1-2 gear cluster. It's straight shot, from 1 to 2, because they 
> are
> on the same cluster. The shift fork does not rotate when going from 1-2.
> I don't understand your statement  "You are  passing thru neutral to do 
> so,
> but on the other leg of the "H"."  What other leg? He has a 4spd. You are
> already on the 1-2 side of the "H". Only in a 3spd does one change 
> shifting
> forks (and therefore change to the other side of the "H") when going from
> 1st to 2nd.
> You are correct, though, that even with minimal slop in the linkage, 
> pulling
> slightly to the left and back makes the shift easier. However, my take on
> Jim's problem is that the 2nd gear blocking ring is getting worn. This is
> usually the first one to go, maybe because the 1st to 2nd shift tends to 
> be
> done faster than 3rd to 4th. It's harder on that particular brass ring and
> therefore it wears faster.
> HTH
> Andy Clark
> Camano Island, WA.
> 66 140/4 Monza Sedan
> 66 140/4 Stinger Clone
> 66 180/4 Cord 8/10 #60
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BBRT" <chsadek at adelphia.net>
> To: <Jebfmc at aol.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: <VV> 1966 corsa 4-speed crunch 1st-2nd
>
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> As you are aware, you have an "H' pattern and yes, the 2nd gear needs to
>> come left and back.  You are rotating the shift tube which in turn 
>> rotates
>> the shift selector rod in the transmission, to select 2nd gear. You are
>> passing thru neutral to do so, but on the other leg of the "H".  When
>> pulling straight back into 4th from third, you also passing thru neutral,
>> but you are already on the right hand side of the "H".  When you try and
>> pull it more or less straight, it isn't getting the shaft rotated enough
> to
>> get the shift selector forks in the trans to engage the sycnhros.  You
> could
>> try adjusting the coupler on the shift tube which goes to the trans
> selector
>> shaft.  Just a little. First I would look at the pin on the selector 
>> shaft
>> and make sure it isn't worn or the hole on the coupler isn't worn. As the
>> pin or holes get worn, the selector shaft may not be rotated enough. As
> you
>> may know, the selector shaft (in the lower front of the trans) is 
>> hardened
>> so don't try and drill it out bigger for another pin. Get the correct pin
> or
>> make one. there are several ways to fix the coupler holes.  Weld up, or
> make
>> little bushings.
>>
>> Lastly, most of the shift towers have worn bushings which also 
>> contributes
>> not only to sloppy shift lever engagement, but also the amount of fore 
>> and
>> aft travel of the lower ball on the shift lever (and affect the
> rotation ).
>> The ball can be worn, too.
>>
>> Good Luck.
>>
>> Chuck S
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Jebfmc at aol.com>
>>
>> > Hi Guys and Happy New Year,
>> >  The
>> > transmission grinds going from 1st to 2nd gear unless I really pull
> shift
>> > lever rearward and to the left. I can't just pull it straight back like
>> > going
>> > from 3rd to 4th. No grinding going from 3rd to 4th. Does this sound
> like
>> > an
>> > internal problem (synchronizers/blocking rings) or is there some 
>> > shifter
>> > or
>> > linkage adjustment I could try to stop the grinding?
>> >
>> >          Thanks,
>> >       Jim  Bennetts
>>
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