<VV> Used parts passing as NOS

[RoboMan91324@aol.com]

Crawford,

Great post.

I have been buying on eBay for some time and have had a few bad experiences.  
Fortunately, very few.  The problem is that predators have learned the buzz 
words and know how to work the system.  The words "as is" are valid for certain 
conditions like if a radio is untested or such.  (Always assume it doesn't 
work when you see those words.)  There are sellers who knowingly misrepresent 
the product and then hide behind those words.  I had a seller who had NOS in the 
title but then put a question mark next to the NOS? in the text and hid 
behind that little trick.  The pictures didn't show the wear marks but they were 
obvious to me when I received the item and I am sure that they were obvious to 
the seller as well.  Modifiers like "I think" .... "I believe" .... "I've been 
told" .... "I am selling for someone else and don't know for sure" are all red 
flags.  You may want to send messages asking for more info.  Ask specific 
questions.  Do this as early in the auction cycle as possible so that you both 
have time to go back and forth if necessary.  As an aside, also ask about 
shipping costs if it isn't included.  An unexpected extra $10 or $15 added to the 
bottom line can turn a good deal bad real quick.

Be careful out there,
Doc

PS:  My pet peeve is people selling the Green type bearings as NOS.  Yes, 
they may be new but they most definitely aren't NOS.
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In a message dated 11/28/2004 6:33:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
virtualvairs-request@corvair.org writes:

> Message: 4
> From: "Crawford Rose" <crawfordrose@msn.com>
> To: <virtualvairs@corvair.org>
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:36:28 -0600
> Subject: <VV> Used parts passing as NOS
> 
> Dear List:  I have noticed a disturbing trend of people using the term NOS 
> to describe "new-ish" used parts on Ebay.  NOS is best shown with some partial 
> packaging but even then, some people place used parts in original boxes and 
> then die - leaving an estate handler with no knowledge selling off the goods 
> as "NOS".  Please be careful and ask questions.  Ugly answers and buyer 
> beware are no substitute for an unconditional guarantee of quality and for a 
> refund.
> Crawford