In a message dated 7/30/2004 12:15:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kaczmarek@charter.net writes: Hi John THose with racing history may know better. But I believe Louis Chevrolet raced cars for the Durants, the founders (I believe) of General Motors. HANK Well, Louis got his start racing and building overhead valve heads for model T F##DS, Remember the Frontnic (SP) heads. rich