<VV> More lug nuts

[FrankDuVal]

Good try, but I don't buy it.  Ha!

Same could be said for EVERY fastener on the vehicle.

It is amazing the number of people out west that argue for the dry 
method. I always tell them here in the rusty east I lubricate threads so 
I can remove them in the future. Wheel studs are just another thread on 
a vehicle.

Now to extend this discussion, unrelated to Corvairs, AFAIK, "they" say 
to always install drums on tapered axles DRY, as lubricating them will 
cause damage. I still cannot wrap my head around this. I've been known 
to lube the taper shaft of a ball joint/tie rod end before installation 
around here!

In true confessions, in 50 years of working on vehicles, I have had two 
loose wheels. Both times I never tightened the lug nuts. First time on a 
friends Mustang, I heard the click click of the wheel being loos, 
stopped and tighten the nuts. Second time was a customer's Acura with 
$600 chrome wheels....... I test drove it around the block and the wheel 
went ahead of me..... and the car came to a sudden halt. Only doing 25 
or so, around the Lee monument. Scary was watching the wheel roll along 
and so lucky it didn't hit anything, any person, nothing. Ran back two 
blocks to the shop and dragged a floor jack back to put the spare on, 
car still sitting on middle of road next to Lee monument....  Lower ball 
joint had punched a hole in the $600 rim..... rest of car was AOK!

Never left another wheel loose.

Frank DuVal

On 3/31/2020 8:04 PM, Jim Becker via VirtualVairs wrote:
> How about: After the wheel is installed the lubricant will attract 
> dust and any other abrasive contaminant the vehicle is exposed to.  
> Unless completely cleaned off, the abrasives will cause thread damage 
> on future removal/installation.  The presence of the contaminants and 
> the thread damage will make proper tightening of the fasteners 
> increasingly improbable.
>
> Jim Becker
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Hugo Miller via VirtualVairs
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3:38 PM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re:  More lug nuts
>
> I don't think there can be an argument for fitting them dry.
>
> On 2020-03-31 19:05, Jay Maechtlen via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> There was quite a discussion of this on one of the Eng-tips forums a
>> while back.
>> Strong opinions were expressed for and against lubrication.