<VV> Break light juice

Fri Jan 15 23:16:04 EST 2016

Juice was actually referring to voltage not current.  If he was testing current an ammeter would have been used not a test light.   I realize a test light does require some current flow but not enough to test if the current is sufficient for the brake/turn filament.

Joel McGregor

-------- Original message --------
From: Jim Becker via VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Date: 1/14/2016 4:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Smitty <vairologist at cox.net>, virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: Break light juice

Let me put to rest everyone's concern that I don't know what the word
"juice" meant in this context.  It is worthy of note that several people
considered the word unclear, pointing another problem in the original post.
I even figured that "rest light was a "test light".  This is in spite of his
first post where "rest light" could have meant "rest of the lights".  No, my
problem was the phrase "do the bulb socket with a ground to the battery
terminal".  Is "do" supposed to be a verb?  Is he asking "Does the bulb
socket ground to the battery terminal."?  If so, he neglected to start a new
sentence and used the wrong verb form.  But it does seem like a reasonable
question.  Maybe his only past electrical work involved a dome light.

Was the word "do" intended as the word "of"?  If so, it required 2
simultaneous typos, invert 2 letters and hit the wrong key at the same time.
If so, he was trying to write "I'm testing at the wire that runs into the
bottom of the bulb socket with a ground to the battery terminal."  By that,
did he mean that he put one end of a jumper wire on one or the other of the
wires to the bottom of the socket and put the other end on a battery
terminal?  Not the best diagnostic technique, but I've seen worse.  I
suppose he was still using the rest light at that point.  I think it is a
pretty safe bet that 99 out of 100 people wouldn't agree on the meaning of
"do the bulb socket with a ground to the battery terminal".  Another problem
with his post was what he didn't mention at all.  He never said whether the
right turn signal worked.  Simply stating that would have split the possible
problem area into two nearly disjoint pieces.

I frequently see comments like your "as long as the two communicators
understood one another".  Unfortunately, they frequently don't understand
each other.  I frequently see ambiguous questions posted on the internet,
open to several interpretations.  I also see plenty of detailed answers that
somebody spent a bunch of time composing.  As often as not, the original
poster came back with a follow up question that revels the person replying
guessed the wrong question and his time was wasted.  It is NOT no harm, on
foul.  That is one of the reasons you don't see a lot of replies from me.  I
try not to waste my time answering the wrong question.

Go back and look at the dozen or so responses that have accumulated on the
original question.  About half the responses are talking about a problem
with the socket and the others about the turn switch.  If the PO follows up
to let us know if the bulb lights up with the turn signal, we will know
which half of us were wasting our time with a non-applicable response, far
from 99% guessed right.

Jim Becker

-----Original Message-----
From: Smitty via VirtualVairs
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:39 PM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject:  Break light juice

Smitty says;  Jim, the post concerning the source of power for the brake
lights was a bit difficult to decipher because of the typos and I can agree
that we must be careful of fat fingers when posting.  But I take good
humored exception to you adding a complaint about the term Juice for
electricity, power, current, or whatever.  Some 65 years ago I was working
as an apprentice with a licensed electrician.  He constantly spoke of juice
when trouble shooting.  Even in a three year electronics/electricity course
I took nobody ever objected to use of the term.  Slang or alternate terms
have always been with us and will continue after we are gone.  No Matter, as
long as the two communicators understood one another.  We can use the terms,
boomarang, hockey stick, and even the GM/Clarks use of drag link for the
relay rod.  (which is absolutely wrong), and no harm,no  foul as long as
folks understand each other.  I’m not going to waste time and space taking a
vote on this forum but I’ll bet 99 out of a hundred understood exactly what
he meant using the term Juice.
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