<VV> Spark plug
Jim Speas
listenerjim at gmail.com
Fri Sep 4 12:01:07 EDT 2015
I had the same thing happen to me couple weeks ago, I guess I got lucky, I tightened the plug and drove 40+ miles and was loose again, club member gave me a new plug and two weeks straight driving hasn't came loose again..
James
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> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 12:07:45 -0400
> From: "Steven J. Serenska" <corvair at serenska.com>
> To: virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: <VV> Shop Manual, Corvair Basics Manual, VV
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> VVers:
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> I had some work done on my '65 Vert (blower bearing) and it wasn't until
> I returned home that I noticed the guy who did the work left the fanbelt
> tensioner and guides completely untightened.
>
> I looked at it for a moment and thought I would just drive it back. Then
> I figured out that the cost of gas, time, plus the risk of the belt
> slipping off entirely outweighed all other factors. I thought, "How
> hard can it be?" and opened up the Shop Manual.
>
> The Shop Manual advises you, and I quote, to "place a 1/16" shim between
> the belt and the rear guide then using a bar and a strand tension gauge
> adjust blower belt to 55 lb. +/- 5lb. (used belt) and 75lb. +/- 5lb (new
> belt". Since I don't own a tension gauge, I thought, "Crap, it can't be
> this hard, I'll look in the Corvair Basics Manual."
>
> The Corvair Basics Manual sensibly advises you to "leave enough slack so
> that you can just turn the generator/alternator fan with one finger."
> Bingo.
>
> I'm back on the road and still enjoying this awesome top-down weather.
> It's funny, in the 20 minutes it took me to do this, I kept thinking,
> "And if the Corvair Basics Manual turns out to be wrong or misses
> something, I can always post on VV."
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> Thanks to all who contributed to the Basics Manual and to all who patrol
> these waters looking to help.
>
> Steven J. Serenska
> 1965 Monza Convertible, 110/4
> 1966 Corsa Coupe, 140/4
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 11:12:27 -0500
> From: Jim Davis <jld at wk.net>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> Shop Manual, Corvair Basics Manual, VV
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> Based on 50+ years on experience - too loose is much better than too
> tight. The warning light tells you when it too loose and the alternator
> bearing tells you it is too tight.
> Jim Davis
>
>> On 9/3/2015 11:07 AM, Steven J. Serenska via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> VVers:
>>
>> I had some work done on my '65 Vert (blower bearing) and it wasn't
>> until I returned home that I noticed the guy who did the work left the
>> fanbelt tensioner and guides completely untightened.
>>
>> I looked at it for a moment and thought I would just drive it back.
>> Then I figured out that the cost of gas, time, plus the risk of the
>> belt slipping off entirely outweighed all other factors. I thought,
>> "How hard can it be?" and opened up the Shop Manual.
>>
>> The Shop Manual advises you, and I quote, to "place a 1/16" shim
>> between the belt and the rear guide then using a bar and a strand
>> tension gauge adjust blower belt to 55 lb. +/- 5lb. (used belt) and
>> 75lb. +/- 5lb (new belt". Since I don't own a tension gauge, I
>> thought, "Crap, it can't be this hard, I'll look in the Corvair Basics
>> Manual."
>>
>> The Corvair Basics Manual sensibly advises you to "leave enough slack
>> so that you can just turn the generator/alternator fan with one
>> finger." Bingo.
>>
>> I'm back on the road and still enjoying this awesome top-down
>> weather. It's funny, in the 20 minutes it took me to do this, I kept
>> thinking, "And if the Corvair Basics Manual turns out to be wrong or
>> misses something, I can always post on VV."
>>
>> Thanks to all who contributed to the Basics Manual and to all who
>> patrol these waters looking to help.
>>
>> Steven J. Serenska
>> 1965 Monza Convertible, 110/4
>> 1966 Corsa Coupe, 140/4
>>
>>
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> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 14:01:58 GMT
> From: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>
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> Am I correct that they can be reused by heating them cherry red and letting them cool?
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> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 15:21:12 +0000 (UTC)
> From: mvjacobi at comcast.net
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> Subject: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
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> Well, my 63 Monza keeps showing me new and interesting tricks.? Last Monday night coming home, engine running smooth and quiet, suddenly sounded like an M-80 firecracker going off in the engine bay followed by a horrible racket sounding like a lost muffler or worse.? Arriving home in the garage, light revealed that the number one spark plug had departed it's hole and wound up in the battery tray.? A helicoil later and the plug was reinstalled and the sparkplug wire which had been caught up in the fan belt, replaced.? I can't for the life of me figure how that plug came loose.? Its been in there for at least three years.? Now suddenly it goes flying out!? Question:? Does the Vair have a reputation for spitting out sparkplugs spontaneously?? In the more than 55 years of driving various cars, this is the first time I have encountered flying sparkplugs from any of them.?? With the plug back in its place, the engine is back to running smoothly, as if nothing untoward had ever happ
> ened.? Anyone have experience with this type problem?
> ?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 08:35:17 -0700
> From: Larry Forman <larry at forman.net>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: Re: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
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> Yes, flying sparkplugs are one of those rare options. I have had one
> or two come out also. While helicoils might work fine, I prefer to use
> TimeSerts. These are installed so that the inner lower wall of the
> insert is thicker and after installation tends to lock itself in place
> better than helicoils. The inserts are more expensive at around $3 or
> so and the installation tool kit is more expensive at something over
> $50-60. However, I still like them. I also use them to replace
> stripped out head stud threads and they work well PROVIDED you run a tap
> over the head stud threads so they go into the TimeSert without
> binding. If you do not do that you will tear out the TimeSert from the
> block after installation, which trashes the entire block.
>
> Don't ask!
>
> Larry
>
>> On 9/4/2015 8:21 AM, mvjacobi--- via VirtualVairs wrote:
>> Well, my 63 Monza keeps showing me new and interesting tricks. Last Monday night coming home, engine running smooth and quiet, suddenly sounded like an M-80 firecracker going off in the engine bay followed by a horrible racket sounding like a lost muffler or worse. Arriving home in the garage, light revealed that the number one spark plug had departed it's hole and wound up in the battery tray. A helicoil later and the plug was reinstalled and the sparkplug wire which had been caught up in the fan belt, replaced. I can't for the life of me figure how that plug came loose. Its been in there for at least three years. Now suddenly it goes flying out! Question: Does the Vair have a reputation for spitting out sparkplugs spontaneously? In the more than 55 years of driving various cars, this is the first time I have encountered flying sparkplugs from any of them. With the plug back in its place, the engine is back to running smoothly, as if nothing untoward had ever ha
> ppened. Anyone have experience with this type problem?
>>
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> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 11:36:43 -0400
> From: "Harry Yarnell \(Verizon\)" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>
> To: <mvjacobi at comcast.net>, "'corvair'" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
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> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 11:21 AM
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> Subject: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
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> Well, my 63 Monza keeps showing me new and interesting tricks. Last Monday night coming home, engine running smooth and quiet, suddenly sounded like an M-80 firecracker going off in the engine bay followed by a horrible racket sounding like a lost muffler or worse. Arriving home in the garage, light revealed that the number one spark plug had departed it's hole and wound up in the battery tray. A helicoil later and the plug was reinstalled and the sparkplug wire which had been caught up in the fan belt, replaced. I can't for the life of me figure how that plug came loose. Its been in there for at least three years. Now suddenly it goes flying out! Question: Does the Vair have a reputation for spitting out sparkplugs spontaneously? In the more than 55 years of driving various cars, this is the first time I have encountered flying sparkplugs from any of them. With the plug back in its place, the engine is back to running smoothly, as if nothing untoward had ever happ
> ened. Anyone have experience with this type problem?
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 11:37:42 -0400
> From: "Harry Yarnell \(Verizon\)" <harryyarnell at verizon.net>
> To: <mvjacobi at comcast.net>, "'corvair'" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
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> Yup, seen it happen twice.
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> From: VirtualVairs [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of mvjacobi--- via VirtualVairs
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 11:21 AM
> To: Virtual Vairs
> Subject: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
>
> Well, my 63 Monza keeps showing me new and interesting tricks. Last Monday night coming home, engine running smooth and quiet, suddenly sounded like an M-80 firecracker going off in the engine bay followed by a horrible racket sounding like a lost muffler or worse. Arriving home in the garage, light revealed that the number one spark plug had departed it's hole and wound up in the battery tray. A helicoil later and the plug was reinstalled and the sparkplug wire which had been caught up in the fan belt, replaced. I can't for the life of me figure how that plug came loose. Its been in there for at least three years. Now suddenly it goes flying out! Question: Does the Vair have a reputation for spitting out sparkplugs spontaneously? In the more than 55 years of driving various cars, this is the first time I have encountered flying sparkplugs from any of them. With the plug back in its place, the engine is back to running smoothly, as if nothing untoward had ever happ
> ened. Anyone have experience with this type problem?
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 10:41:43 -0500
> From: Daniel Monasterio Gonz?lez <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>
> To: <mvjacobi at comcast.net>, Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Flying Sparkplug
> Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP808E54528E173992F7C79EB0570 at phx.gbl>
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> Not common but, it happened to me, once, some twenty years ago. First and
> only time while driving 'vairs by 47 years.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 04/09/15 10:21, "mvjacobi--- via VirtualVairs"
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, my 63 Monza keeps showing me new and interesting tricks. Last
>> Monday night coming home, engine running smooth and quiet, suddenly
>> sounded like an M-80 firecracker going off in the engine bay followed by
>> a horrible racket sounding like a lost muffler or worse. Arriving home
>> in the garage, light revealed that the number one spark plug had departed
>> it's hole and wound up in the battery tray. A helicoil later and the
>> plug was reinstalled and the sparkplug wire which had been caught up in
>> the fan belt, replaced. I can't for the life of me figure how that plug
>> came loose. Its been in there for at least three years. Now suddenly it
>> goes flying out! Question: Does the Vair have a reputation for spitting
>> out sparkplugs spontaneously? In the more than 55 years of driving
>> various cars, this is the first time I have encountered flying sparkplugs
>> from any of them. With the plug back in its place, the engine is back
>> to running smoothly, as if nothing untoward had ever happened. Anyone
>> have experience with this type problem?
>>
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