<VV> Membership of CORSA
Carl Kelsen Arlette Pat
arlettecarl at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 3 23:56:25 EST 2014
Hi from 'down under' in sunny warm Australia,
I have been reading all of these views and opinions with respect to being or not being a 'member' of CORSA, enjoying the benefits, giving back to CORSA and paying for this privilege.
I am a member of at least 6 car clubs in the USA. A life member of 2 of these 6 clubs and take pride in the fact that I am the founding member of Australia's largest Chevrolet Car Club which I established in the early 1970s.
I don't join a club, any club with a view as what I can personally take from that club. I join a club to provide my support and in doing so to ensure that club survives. If the club survives then it will bring benefits to its membership. If you don't belong to CORSA then I have to question whether you are interested in the general publics awareness and interest in Corvairs, maintaining or improving your Corvairs value and perhaps most importantly educating the next generation who might buy your Corvair one day when for whatever reason you need to sell it.
As an international member living in Australia there is little I can do to support CORSA beyond paying my annual fees. I have written a few articles our magazine, attended 4 annual CORSA conventions and presented at one of them but that's about it. I can't attend local chapter events and it unlikely that I will ever be able to display my restored RHD 1965 Monza convertible at any event.
For my membership, I basically get the magazine and that's it, but I also feel that I am supporting our hobby and CORSA by simply paying my membership fees.
CORSA is in my view above and beyond any individual. Even if I did not agree with a direction CORSA was taking I would continue to maintain my membership.
So if you don't belong to CORSA because you disagreed with some policy, direction or an individual then I would respectfully suggest that you are turning your back on a whole international Corvair community and that you should look beyond that policy or individual and see the importance of CORSA growing rather than retracting.
It's in all of our interests.
Regards to all
Carl Kelsen
RHD 1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza convertible
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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> 1. Re: 1965 BU wiring route (J. R. Read)
> 2. CONVENTION AND MEMBERSHIP (James Weppelman)
> 3. Membership - One Day in the Future (Scott Morehead)
> 4. Re: Membership -Renewed (EVERETT WILSON)
> 5. Re: 1965 BU wiring route (hank kaczmarek)
> 6. Re: CONVENTION AND MEMBERSHIP (Ken Clark)
> 7. Fw: [fastvair] Performance Workshop Times (BBRT)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 18:48:40 -0600
> From: "J. R. Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 BU wiring route
> To: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>, <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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> What tranny?
> Later, JR
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> From: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>
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> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 6:21 PM
> Subject: <VV> 1965 BU wiring route
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> > Trying to help a fellow club member replace his BU switch. Car came with
> > some hacked up wiring. New switch from Clark's has wire that is too short
> > to route it as originsl owner had. Assembly Manual Section 12 C6 shows
> > some switch set up that uses shifter. Never saw anything like that on a
> > car. This switch does in fact go into the trans. Anybody got a pix or
> > diagram showing correct routing? I know there is cnnector in the tunnel.
> > Thanks.
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> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 20:10:47 -0500
> From: James Weppelman <jweppel at hotmail.com>
> Subject: <VV> CONVENTION AND MEMBERSHIP
> To: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Yinz guys,
> The response and enthusiasm on this subject,whether its a bitch and moan,or positive reaction,really just shows that we ALL do care about this hobby.The past is the past,and that is exactly why we need to move foward.The jist of the matter seems to be the revenue stream to keep Corsa alive and kicking.Instead of dewling on the exclustivity of the "club", we need to be more open to whatever it is.(members,non-members,spectators,bod's)I suggest that with todays focus on the media (especially attractive to the younger crowd) that maybe something like a car donated to "overhalen", "fast and loud" or even "power block tv". With the intent to give it away to a veterns group or some other group that would deal with younger people.The ensuing exposure would be awsume. We need to get the corvair in front of people that know nothing about the car,let alone our group. Another way to increase revune could be to have a car raffle that would extend to the local chapters also.Say a $10,000
> corvair sell 4000 tickets at $5 each,$10,000 profit. Yinz guys with Go- Pro camera's,or race videos, get them on u-tube or whatever. Car shows are great,but how about marketing some corvairs for movies,or promotional work(golf tournaments,beauty pagents,etc) No one really outside of owning or had a corvair knows nothing about them.It isnt like they make them any more.Just thinkin.
> james weppelman :}
> pittsburgh
> 52 years old,commercial tire sales
> 63 rag,spyder project
> 61 wagon coming home next week yea!
> corsa member since walking in motel front door at Kalamazoo,after the concours event and parking lot tour.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:42:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Scott Morehead <moreheadscott at yahoo.com>
> Subject: <VV> Membership - One Day in the Future
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> CORSA Member? - Yes - Lifetime? -?
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> CORSA - Hats off to the Past and a Welcomed Future.....? - CORSA will undoubtedly look completely different in the years to come -? Forget your history and it will repeat itself as CORSA has already done year in and out - (How do you recall it if it was never revealed - ie., to new members AKA Future Board Members)
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> Former Board Members of the previous two RFP (Request For Proposals) attempts know what needs AND can? be done and where CORSA should have been years ago - (Appreciation and a Bravo Zulu to those who have had decades of tenured position(s) and who were extremely instrumental and managed a monumental undertaking from CORSAs predecessors in its early years! ) -?
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> There is no need to point fingers at the Board, Officers, Management team, politicking fodder, self avowed know it alls, or those that are on the cover or in every convention issue or those volunteers that have held the same positions of influence for endless years -
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> CORSA needs a fundamental change at every level.? CORSA is made up of a quiet majority - Perhaps it is befitting if the squeaky minority rules the roost in CORSA -? Congrats to those that raise their voice contrary to what the popular opposition squashes.? One size fits all approach fits one size.? Henry Ford said you can or you can not - either way it is the truth.? But then "you know the rest of the story"? Fix Or Repair Daily - Found on Road Dead - Fifth on Race Day (FORD) - GRN
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> As a previously stated post, there is a plethora of ideas and limited work force. Perhaps the issues may be found in the roots.
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> Where would you like to begin?
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> ?
> Best regards,
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> Scott Morehead
> Former Board Member
> Former Vice President
> Former RFP (Request For Proposals) Administrator
> 843 - 478 - 4223
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> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 12:55:01 -0800 (PST)
> From: EVERETT WILSON <aircooled6 at prodigy.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Membership -Renewed
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> As someone who uses the CCF and VV to maintain my sanity, I have been one of those list-freeloaders.? I didnt realize it had been since 2010.?
>
> No excuses.? Always managed to find something else to spend the money on.?
>
> I doubt Ill make the convention this year, although I would love to.? Simply too many other drains on the wallet! I think Chicago was the last one I actually made it to and that was a day trip!
>
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> However, Smitty is right.? Why should I enjoy the fruits of the vine, when Im not providing any of the support.
>
> That is now rectified.
>
> Here's the receipt.?? My tax refund was ok this year, compared to a sizable payment last year, so this was a timely narrative.
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> Amount: $ 37.00
> Date: March 3rd, 2014 3:34 PM
> Transaction #: AA4xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Now, what do I want to complain about...Hmmm.
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> Where's my membership card, I put this in nearly 15 minutes ago!!!!!!?? :)
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> There, I complained!!!
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> Stay Warm, all.
>
> Everett Wilson
> North Richland Hills, Canada, er, Texas. ? Cooooold last night!?
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> Same goes for the non registered freeloaders in the hospitality rooms at the
> conventions.? Where's your name tag.? Oh I'm not registered.? I just came to
> see what's going on.? (as he scoffs up a sweet roll and a soda).
> I can't touch on CORSA and VV members who are not members of CORSA without
> offending a few who are good friends.? Just let me say you don't have to
> love the board to support fellow Corvair owner members in the common goal of
> camaraderie.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:42:24 -0500
> From: "hank kaczmarek" <kaczmarek at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 BU wiring route
> To: "Brian" <bmoneill at juno.com>, <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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> That's odd. The one I got from Clark's was WAY TOO LONG. Maybe they sent a
> mispackaged switch.
>
> Hank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:21 PM
> To: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
> Subject: 1965 BU wiring route
>
> Trying to help a fellow club member replace his BU switch. Car came with
> some hacked up wiring. New switch from Clark's has wire that is too short
> to route it as originsl owner had. Assembly Manual Section 12 C6 shows some
> switch set up that uses shifter. Never saw anything like that on a car.
> This switch does in fact go into the trans. Anybody got a pix or diagram
> showing correct routing? I know there is cnnector in the tunnel. Thanks.
> ____________________________________________________________
> Never Eat This Carb
> Literally Never! 1 Easy Tip to Increase Fat Burning, Lower Blood Sugar
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/53151ce3bbba61ce332d0st02vuc
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:04:43 -0500
> From: Ken Clark <kcvair at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> CONVENTION AND MEMBERSHIP
> To: Joel McGregor <joel at joelsplace.com>, "virtualvairs at corvair.org"
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> As a CORSA member since the 70's and never been on BOD although I ran 2 times, but my thoughts concerning belonging is that if there wasn't a CORSA or similar organization for Corvair owners the Corvair would be just an old relic no one but a hand full of old die hards cared for. I'm not sure I would have any myself, but since 1962 when I bought my 1st one new I've had at least 20-25 of them and most have passed on to others like myself that enjoy getting together to talk and compare notes. (and get parts for) Probably would not be any major parts suppliers either.
> Ken Clark
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> > From: joel at joelsplace.com
> > To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:37:51 +0000
> > Subject: Re: <VV> CONVENTION AND MEMBERSHIP
> >
> > I've only been a CORSA member for around 10 years if memory serves me correctly (it rarely does).
> > The only reason I wasn't a member long ago is the cost. I really didn't have the extra cash back then. I guess if I bought a few less cars and less from the vendors I could have been a member...
> > The only convention I've been able to go to was pre-CORSA and I loved it. I don't recall being excluded from anything. (Dallas) I'm sure there were events that were CORSA only but I guess I wasn't interested. A convention now would be a totally different experience since it would be fun to meet a lot of people from this list. Hopefully next year!
> >
> > Joel McGregor
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:50:54 -0500
> From: "BBRT" <chsadek at comcast.net>
> Subject: <VV> Fw: [fastvair] Performance Workshop Times
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cooterr2003 at yahoo.com
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> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 8:11 PM
> Subject: [fastvair] Performance Workshop Times
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> To all who are planning on attending the Performance Workshop, particularly the vendors.
> Vendor setup will be Friday at 4:30 at the back side of TKO Graphix.
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> Registration will start at 7:30 am
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> If you have not reserved space for the Friday dinner at the Coachman, space is getting very tight.
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> The agenda will start at no later than 8:30 on Saturday morning just so much to do so get there early.
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