<VV> '65 Corvair heater "FAN" motor shaft keyed?

[Charlie]

JR had said "try to peg the fan to that metal center piece in some way so
that it cannot slip."

Is the "metal center piece" called the "hub"?  
Where is this "metal center piece" or "hub" - inside the motor, or part of
the squirrel cage?

Is the shaft (that inserts into the keyed hole in the "squirrel cage")
crimped to the hub (inside the motor housing), and that what comes loose?

See VV's linked pix below (if not attached) ~

Can that be fixed and how?

Thanks ~
Charlie


-----Original Message-----
From: VirtualVairs [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of
Bryan Blackwell via VirtualVairs
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 8:20 AM
To: Charlie
Cc: Virtual Vairs
Subject: Re: <VV> '65 Corvair heater "FAN" motor shaft keyed?

That's not what he's talking about.  The fan actually comes loose on the
hub, they are just crimped together.  The later plastic fans are better in
this regard.

--Bryan

On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:23 AM, Charlie via VirtualVairs
<virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:

> JR ~
> 
> I see that my heater "FAN" motor shaft has a "flat spot" (like the 
> steering shaft into steering box) that locks the squirrel cage so it
doesn't slip.
> 
> Maybe this was new for the late models?
> 
> See pix below ...
> 
> And yes, it squealed like a banshee, so I squirted some 90 wt around 
> it as it spun (without the cage) until it quieted down.
> 
> Then with the cage mounted it was nicely balanced and ultra-quiet!
> 
> It was so successful, I took it out of the Corsa too (that has been
sitting for 25 years.)

-----Original Message-----
From: VirtualVairs [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of J.
R. Read via VirtualVairs
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 10:35 PM
To: Charlie; 'Virtual Vairs'
Subject: Re: <VV> '65 Corvair heater "FAN" selector has 4 settings?

BTW...   If you have a metal "squirrel cage" attached to the blower motor
and were having a squeal sound - that typically comes from the fan (squirrel
cage) slipping on the part that holds the fan to the shaft from the motor. 
Greasing it might quiet it for a while (don't know - never tried that), but
the fan is probably running slower than the motor.  Eventually, the fan will
likely stop running - or nearly so - no matter how fast the motor is
running.

You might try to peg the fan to that metal center piece in some way so that
it cannot slip.

Even if the fan motor is not running you will still receive some "warmish"
air through the heat system from the top side of the engine as well as a
portion of the air pushed by the engine fan.  Probably enough for around
town driving, but probably not enough for the highway.  Push the HEAT lever
forward without pushing the fan lever forward for a test run at this.

Later, JR

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie via VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
To: "'Virtual Vairs'" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: <VV> '65 Corvair heater "FAN" selector has 4 settings?


> Still working on getting some heat in my 1965 Monza 110 4-speed 
> convertible:
>
> The Corvair heater "FAN" selector seems to have 4 "detents" for different
> settings.
>
> Assuming all the way up is "off," what does each "step" down accomplish?
>
> I just refurbished the fan blower motor, removing a few spider nests and
> what may have been the grisly end for a mouse.
>
> The blower motor works (nice and quiet after greasing the shaft and 
> removing
> the grunge)
>
> Connecting it directly to battery and ground, it's OK, but not from the
> controls on the dash.
>
> The resistor has 12V where it should but it seems not to get back to the
> connector to the motor (back over the rear axle.)
>
> I suspect the connector behind the dash that feeds the instrument lamps
> (which do not light, but the "ALT" and "TEMP/PRESS" lights do work)
>
> I'm trying to figure out the switch behind the heater controls while I'm 
> at
> it, hence the questions that may be a bit tangential, but I'm curious, and
> it may be part of the problem?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Charlie

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