<VV> Hybrid cars and electric cars
Sethracer at aol.com
Sethracer at aol.com
Sat Aug 16 23:36:45 EDT 2014
The Volt is a plug-in Hybrid Electric. The Prius is "currently" (sorry)
available in several designs. All the older models were gas-powered and were
driven by a battery-fed electric motor, which was only powered by an
on-board gas engine. The Volt can be driven on only electric if you are careful,
for a certain distance. Beyond that distance, or if the extra power is
needed, it can be driven on both. When the battery pack has dropped below a
certain level, it is driven on just the gas motor - for any distance you want
to go. Just keep putting gas in. When you get to a plug-in station, you can
replenish the battery. The Ford C-Max Energi is the same concept. My
brother has a C-Max Energi. (There is also a non-plug in standard C-Max hybrid).
Since he and his wife drive it around in the city, (Seattle area), mostly,
they made it well past 1000 miles before their first fill-up of gasoline,
since they plug in both at home and at work. Ford recommends using the gas
motor regularly to make sure the gasoline doesn't go stale. His son has a
Tesla S, he drives around LA mostly, plugging in at home or at work. His
travels are planned with charging points in mind. The car was in Seattle last
month, so he knows how to get places. I have driven the Tesla and I was
impressed by the performance. The C-max Energi, the Volt and the Tesla are in
markets which I am not interested. But many people are, and they can make a
valid case for those cars. It takes all kinds. - Seth
In a message dated 8/16/2014 6:12:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
virtualvairs at corvair.org writes:
I understand your point Frank--the volt is a hybrid, but it's an electric
hybrid and that's my point. The gas engine isn't mechanically connected to
the drive train like a Prius.
Bob
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: frankcb at aol.com
</div><div>Date:08/16/2014 7:05 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To:
hallgrenn at aol.com,viewmastermik at netscape.net,harrysmith1957 at gmail.com,chaz at properproper.
com </div><div>Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org </div><div>Subject: Re: <VV>
$11, 291 Electric 1966 Corvair "complete" AC Conversion Kit (batteries
not included) </div><div>
</div>Bob,
If it burns gasoline to make the car go, then it's a HYBRID and not a real
ELECTRIC car, like the Tesla.
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
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To: frankcb <frankcb at aol.com>; viewmastermik <viewmastermik at netscape.net>;
harrysmith1957 <harrysmith1957 at gmail.com>; chaz <chaz at properproper.com>
Cc: virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Fri, Aug 15, 2014 9:14 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> $11, 291 Electric 1966 Corvair "complete" AC Conversion
Kit (batteries not included)
Frank,
Take a look at the Chevy Volt. You can drive hundreds of miles after the
batteries die--the gas engine is a generator.
Bob
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-------- Original message --------
From: frankcb--- via VirtualVairs
Date:08/15/2014 7:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
To:
viewmastermik at netscape.net,harrysmith1957 at gmail.com,chaz at properproper.com
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: $11, 291 Electric 1966 Corvair "complete" AC Conversion Kit
(batteries not included)
The biggest problem with electric cars is the TIME it takes to "fill up"
the batteries. When I go on a trip in a conventional car, after a couple of
hundred miles I can stop and "refuel" the gas tank in 10 minutes. In an
all electric car, it takes HOURS to "refuel" the batteries even assuming you
can find a place that can do it. So they may have their place driving
short distances to and from work every day, especially in heavy traffic and
"refueling" OVERNIGHT in your garage, but you'll still need a
conventional-engine car to drive on a trip out of state to a car show or a convention or
simply to visit relatives..
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
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From: M Stevens via VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
To: Harry Smith <harrysmith1957 at gmail.com>; Charlie <chaz at properproper.com>
Cc: Virtaul Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thu, Aug 14, 2014 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> $11, 291 Electric 1966 Corvair "complete" AC Conversion
Kit (batteries not included)
And you would need a more more door to hold all the batteries.
"Tesla...take me
away..."
-m
Sent from my putt putt phone...
<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Harry Smith via
VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org> </div><div>Date:08/14/2014 2:44
PM
(GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: Charlie <chaz at properproper.com> </div><div>Cc:
Virtaul Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: <VV> $11,
291 Electric 1966 Corvair "complete" AC Conversion Kit (batteries
not included) </div><div>
</div>WOW! Looks like quite an expensive ordeal! Besides the original kit
the
batteries add up to around $8,800.00. It also states battery management
controller not included and I do not see one listed. Then you need to
fabricate battery boxes.
Too much money for me!
Harry Smith
Coral Springs, FL
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Charlie via VirtualVairs <
virtualvairs at corvair.org> wrote:
> 1966 Corvair "complete" Electric Conversion Kit :
>
> http://www.highvoltagehotrod.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info
<
>
http://www.highvoltagehotrod.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=187>;
> &cPath=73&products_id=187
>
>
>
> Pretty cool idea, and just about innovative enough to be worthwhile?!?!?
>
>
>
> Caveat ~ The ad says :
>
> ”Other kits leave many out many important and expensive components. Our
> kit is complete."
>
> Then it says : BTW, “Just add batteries” which consists of “main battery
> pack, battery management system, and battery boxes.”
>
> Another $xxx G’s?
>
>
>
> Probably different batteries depending on desired power, etc? Sent
> message for battery cost ~ post later …
>
>
>
> Anyone try this yet?
>
> Charlie
>
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