<VV> Was Reliability, etc. of a turbo; now gyro effect
jvhroberts at aol.com
jvhroberts at aol.com
Sun Sep 29 17:29:24 EDT 2013
Oh well, so much for tongue in cheek, it would seem!!! LOL
John Roberts
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From: RoboMan91324 <RoboMan91324 at aol.com>
To: virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; corvairgrymm <corvairgrymm at gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 4:49 pm
Subject: <VV> Was Reliability, etc. of a turbo; now gyro effect
Ray,
You neglected to consider the gyro effect of the motor, fans, etc.
When the horizontal lateral rotation of the turbo and alternator (and
especially a generator) interacts with the vertical gyro effects of the motor's
fan/pulley assembly and then add in the horizontal fore/aft effects of the
vent/heat/AC fan/squirrel cage and the fore/aft effect of the crank/cam
shafts then consider the gyro effects of the four turning wheels/tires/drums
and then all those spinning parts in the transaxle/clutch/flywheel assembly
.... Wow, it makes my head spin .... pun intended. You should see the odd
gyro induced motions my spinning head has when I nod. I look like a
dashboard bobble head on a bumpy road. Is there a Brad Pitt look-alike bobble
head? :-)
Of course there are no disruptive forces on the horizontal gyros until you
make a sharp turn so lets add that event and there are no disruptive
forces on the vertical gyro and some horizontal gyros until you tilt the car
fore/aft and/or side-to-side so lets introduce a braking and curb jumping
event too. A sharp turn combined with an inside curve curb jump is when the
gyros will flip you over like a flapjack. .... and no, before someone asks,
you can't get flapjacks at your FLAPS. (... to my knowledge.)
Hmmmm .... am I forgetting something in this flippin' equation? Probably,
but my head is still spinning from all that gyro stuff. :-)
Kidding aside, I have worked on Flywheel Energy Storage Systems (FESS)
intended for on-the-road use, among numerous other applications. Believe me,
those suckers have some very, very serious gyro/inertia effects that must
be taken into account.
In at least one project, the gyro/inertial effects of a flywheel were
necessary in the application.
Doc
1960 Corvette, 1961 Rampside, 1962 Rampside, 1964 Spyder coupe, 1965
Greenbrier, 1966 Canadian Corsa turbo coupe, 1967 Nova SS, 1968 Camaro ragtop
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 22:31:16 -0400
From: Ramon Rodriguez III <corvairgrymm at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Reliability, etc. of a turbo; was: Corvair Classic
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Mike, that is absolutely ridiculous. The turbo is mounted crossways in the
engine room, this creates a gyro effect and actually PREVENTS Spyders from
rolling over. =P
Ray R.
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