<VV> Newest Corvair model?
    Patrick Murphy 
    litetrix at aol.com
       
    Tue Dec 24 06:02:28 EST 2013
    
    
  
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank DuVal <corvairduval at cox.net>
To: virtualvairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tue, Dec 24, 2013 12:45 am
Subject: Re: <VV> Non-Corvair Specific: Gas freezing?
 
 
 
You are correct  that that is the common wisdom for years now. 
 
I just add alcohol (Heet, Dry Gas, etc) to the tank and drive on. 
 
Of course now that we run 10% ethanol, maybe I don't nee the methyl or  
what ever added.... 
 
If gasoline actually freezes, dress very warm! 
 
Diesel, now that will gel at surprisingly high temperatures. I found  
that diesel without additives would start to gel at about 16 °F when I  
was driving at 55 (ha!) mph. All the trucks beside me were also blowing  
white smoke, so we were all in the same boat. Twice I had to get off the  
interstate and add a gallon of unleaded to the tank to continue driving  
at speed when a cold snap surprised me. Not a recommended additive, but  
it worked! 
 
One should run some anti gel in diesel if the temp is regularly below 20  
°F or so. Maybe diesel sold up north already has something in it. 
 
Frank DuVal 
 
 
On 12/23/2013 11:14 PM, J. R. Read wrote: 
> I believe the issue is not gas freezing but is moisture in the tank 
> condensing and getting to a low point in the fuel line where it (the water 
> which is heavier than gas) can turn to ice and block the fuel line.  The 
> idea behind keeping the tank full of gas would be to leave less space in the 
> tank for moisture (water) to accumulate.  I don't have a clue if this is or 
> was correct, but it would seem to me that most (all probably) tanks are now 
> non-vented  on modern cars and the issue would no longer exist regardless 
> off how full (or empty) the tank might be at the moment. 
> 
> This post will likely upset Smitty since it is not based on actual 
> experience. 
> 
> Later, JR 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ricebugg at comcast.net> 
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org> 
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 9:22 PM 
> Subject: <VV> Non-Corvair Specific: Gas freezing? 
> 
> 
>> All:  My wife ask if we should fill up the tank on her RAV tonight.  We 
>> then had a conversation about keeping at least half a tank of gas in the 
>> car during cold weather like we are having now in Central Illinois.  She 
>> thought it was to keep the gas from freezing.  I told her it was to give 
>> you heat if you get in trouble, assuming the motor is still running.  I 
>> realize condensation inside the tank can freeze in a fuel line, but that 
>> it is rare.  Never had it happen in 40 plus years of driving up here. 
>> 
>> I assume one of you chemist types will know the answer here.  The question 
>> is, just out of curiousity, what is the freezing temp of gasoline?  I 
>> assume it will freeze at some temp, but so far down the scale everything 
>> else in the car has become non-functioning. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Historically Yours, 
>>                     James Rice 
 
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