<VV> now age of vehicles

Fri Dec 13 15:22:57 EST 2013

Just for the record I wasn't complaining about the rate, and $90 vs $100 is a relatively small difference. Also, a good mechanic and a trustworthy company is a great find and well worth the cost!

It's just that if I have to rely on an external entity to repair my OGC - dealership or a car repair shop - then there will come a time when the economics will push me into getting something else well before the car is ready to be junked - and that has nothing to do with my income. 

"Back in the day" I would continue fixing and repairing in my own garage but those days are largely gone, outside of my Corvairs.

Speaking of car ownership I do agree with some of the futurists who suggest that individual ownership of vehicles will be largely gone in 20 -30 years or so, at least in urban areas. The incredible growth of the car sharing companies is I think an indicator of that.

Regards,
Bob

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From: shortle [mailto:shortle556 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: December-13-13 11:58 AM
To: Bob Gilbert; corvairduval at cox.net; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> now age of vehicles

That is more than .002 cents Bob. As far as a "$100 per hour parts replacer" you may look for a different guy. In my shop we charge $90/hour and if we put a part on your newer type car and your car is not fixed we will take that part back off the shop and put it back on the shelf. Most of my inventory for customers cars is just that but there is a small amount that is used for diagnosis purposes. For those people on fixed incomes remember I didn't fix your income just your newer type car. Since I only work on 1 kind of car (VOLVO) it is easier to stock/repair/diagnose than a shop that wants to work on every kind of car. Oh I also just renewed my subscription to the Volvo on line service system for 1 year for a little over $7,000.00. Yeah yeah I know: that is my problem. My suggestion to the poor broke motoring public is DON'T DRIVE A CAR.
Timothy Shortle in (cold) Durango Colorado 81301

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>From: Bob Gilbert <bgilbert at gilberts-bc.ca>
>Sent: Dec 13, 2013 12:34 PM
>To: corvairduval at cox.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> now age of vehicles
>
>Just to add my .02...
>
>Part of the reason for "throwing them away" before their time is that 
>so few people are capable of maintaining the modern cars. So when 
>things start to go wrong, it's either pay $100 an hour for a parts 
>replacer at which rate you get to a $1,000 pretty quickly or you start 
>to think about replacing the car. I Have 66 Corsa and a 68 UltraVan, 
>they are in good shape but I won't kid myself that they are 50 plus 
>year old vehicles and things will go wrong and I have to have one "newish" reliable, non-Corvair vehicle.
>
>I'm an OK shade tree mechanic and a reasonably good Corvair mechanic 
>but there's no way I will touch my 2010 Subaru, other than for minor 
>fluid replacement.  One result is a recent service call that ran to 
>$1,100 that included  some parts that had to be replaced.  That was a 
>big "ouch" on my pension! I wasn't ripped off, the charges for the 
>parts and the labour were all reasonable but it all adds up.
>
>A bill like that has been by far the exception but time goes on and if 
>I start to get a 2 or 3 of those in a year then $300 a month for a new 
>leased, throw away - but trouble free - vehicle looks starts to look 
>like a viable, reliable economic option.
>
>Years ago I wouldn't go near a dealership for service but now for my 
>OGV (One Good Vehicle)I have no real choice. So probably 5-10 years 
>from now my Subaru with maybe 200,000 miles will be in relatively good 
>condition but may simply be too expensive to maintain and a few years 
>after that it will probably end up in the junk yard.
>
>Ok, that was more like .04...
>
>Regards,
>Bob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of 
>corvairduval at cox.net
>Sent: December-13-13 10:48 AM
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> now age of vehicles
>
>I don't even own anything that new!
>
>I do not purchase depreciating assets, not a good use of capital for me. 
>
>Let other people take the heavy depriciation and let me drive for small 
>money.
>
>Hey, That's how I got into Corvairs in the 70's!
>
>Harry, I spent a few hours out west in wrecking yards, and their age 
>seemed the same. What a sight seeing rust free bodies thrown away of 
>recent vintage.
>
>But, when I was in yards back in the 70's, most of the cars were from 
>the 60's, so even then cars would end up disposed by 6 to 8 years of 
>age, so they are on the road longer now than then.  Average age of 
>vehicles in service is now over 11 years, way longer than ever before.
>
>Frank DuVal
>
>Original email:
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>From: Harry Yarnell \(Verizon\) harryyarnell at verizon.net
>Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 12:25:44 -0500
>To: hmlinc at sbcglobal.net, Shelrockbored at aol.com, 
>virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> '63 Spyder Convertible on
>
>
>I frequent a local salvage yard and I notice incoming inventory. The 
>peak for junking a car at this yard (and I'm sure is similar at other 
>eastcoast
>yards) is 11-12 year old cars.
>
>
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