<VV> VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 99, Issue 83

Michael Weary michael_j_weary at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 23 20:20:49 EDT 2013


Dodge Daytona I think

Michael Weary

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>   1. Re: Single Carburetor vs modern car (J R Read)
>   2. Re: Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late model
>      coupe or co... (Leon Fahrenthold)
>   3.  Recommended Magazines (Thompson, Ed)
>   4. Emailing: VV Single Carburetor vs modern car.htm (Thompson, Ed)
>   5. Re: Single Carburetor vs modern car (Ray)
>   6. Re: Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late model
>      coupe or co... (shortle)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:36:07 -0500
> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Single Carburetor vs modern car
> To: <corvairduval at cox.net>,    <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Briggs & Stratton.
> Later, JR
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> From: <corvairduval at cox.net>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:16 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Single Carburetor vs modern car
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> 
> That's a small 20 year window. From 1970 to 1989.
> 
> Anyone know of a production car that used a carburetor after 1989?
> 
> This is a test, as there were a few oddballs up to 1991.
> 
> Frank DuVal
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:18:46 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Leon Fahrenthold <tterribleted at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late
>    model coupe or co...
> To: Shelrockbored at aol.com
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> 
> ?I have found 5 rear 1/4's so far in my search. 1 left side 68-69 convt (a rough?light to medium surface rust ?NOS part ). 1 left side 65-67 coupe and?3 r ight side coupe with prices from $350 to $900 plus shipping which will be pricey as well.? 
> 
> 
> ? A high price for a good panel is not necessarily an issue . 
> 
> 
> 
> ? ? If, I were to repair this gentleman's existing 1/4 panel I would?expend likely 40 ?hours of labor in t he repair (more than ?half of the time being spent fabricating or sectioning the bottom front 4 inches?of it from wheel openin g to door as well as the rear latch post at the bottom. The rest of the time would be spent shaping the 5 foot long by 1 foot tall section along the side of the 1/4 that looks like someone had a ballpeen hammer party?from both sides over the entire area in a poor old repair (a couple 1/2inch holes where the metal?was stretched so far that they sand thru it).?So the cost ot this repair is $1,600?labor 40/hr, plus a couple hundred bucks in materials, so around $1,800. 
> 
> 
> 
> The cost of repairing with?truely good clean new undamaged ?panel would be the cost of the panel plus about 10 hours. Lets just say the panel costs $900 and it cost $ 5 00 to ship it in. Given this the total cost would be?$400 labor+?$1,400 part +? $75 materials =?$1,875. 
> 
> 
> 
> ?The cost in this case is similar however the gains for the quality of the car can be great. With the 1/4 removed any rust on the inner panels and especially in the door latch post can be addressed and repaired.?The other benefit in my case is not having body filler over a 5 foot long section inside and outside the 1/4 panel to a total thickness of perhaps 3/4's of an inch from engine compartment side to the outer painted surface. 
> 
> ? 
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> The Corvair Ranch couldn't help you? 
> ? 
> ? 
> In a message dated 4/22/2013 5:41:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tterribleted at comcast.net writes: 
> 
> I need a NOS left 1/4 panel for a 1965 convertible. Convertible, coupe or later model with marker hole OK (only a 4 door unit will not be usable). I am located in Atlanta, Georgia, closer is better, driving distance (within 250 miles) ?is better still.? An extremly nice used ?1/4 section of car within 250 miles might be a possibility as well...it must be absolutly rust hole free and not badly dented. Ted 
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> And nine great issues a year of the CORSA COMMUNIQUE, of course, which is a benefit of CORSA membership, www.corvair.org<http://www.corvair.org>.  And www.autorestorermagazine.com<http://www.autorestorermagazine.com>.
> Ed, Milwaukee, '66 Monza sedan, 110-glide
> <VV> Recommended Magazines
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> I am interested to know if any of you have some recommended magazine
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> From: "Thompson, Ed" <ed.thompson at quarles.com>
> Subject: <VV> Emailing: VV Single Carburetor vs modern car.htm
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> Did the '91, even '92, Olds Custom Cruiser wagon still have a carburetor?
> Ed, Milwaukee, '66 Monza sedan, 110-glide
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> <VV> Single Carburetor vs modern car
> J R Read hmlinc at sbcglobal.net <mailto:virtualvairs%40corvair.org?Subject=%3CVV%3E%20Single%20Carburetor%20vs%20modern%20car&In-Reply-To=>
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> Briggs & Stratton.
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> Later, JR
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> Subject: Re: <VV> Single Carburetor vs modern car
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> That's a small 20 year window. From 1970 to 1989.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone know of a production car that used a carburetor after 1989?
> 
> 
> 
> This is a test, as there were a few oddballs up to 1991.
> 
> 
> 
> Frank DuVal
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:46:37 -0400
> From: Ray <xramzl1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Single Carburetor vs modern car
> To: "corvairduval at cox.net" <corvairduval at cox.net>
> Cc: "virtualvairs at corvair.org" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> A 1991 Police car i saw
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> Rcs
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> On Apr 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "corvairduval at cox.net" <corvairduval at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> That's a small 20 year window. From 1970 to 1989.
>> 
>> Anyone know of a production car that used a carburetor after 1989?
>> 
>> This is a test, as there were a few oddballs up to 1991.
>> 
>> Frank DuVal
>> 
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Harry Smith harrysmith1957 at gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:36:18 -0400
>> To: whubbell at verizon.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Single Carburetor
>> 
>> 
>> I believe "Modern" refers to anything newer than our Corvairs;)
>> Harry Smith
>> 1963 Rampside
>> Coral Springs, FL
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:47:37 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late
>    model coupe or co...
> To: Leon Fahrenthold <tterribleted at comcast.net>, Shelrockbored at aol.com
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> If you have found 5 in your search for an NOS part I would say you made it. Or is the one for $350 too much?
> Ah what the heck. Offer him $200 and tell him that includes shipping. Or is that too much?
> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
> Wishing I had NOS body panels
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Leon Fahrenthold <tterribleted at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Apr 23, 2013 5:18 PM
>> To: Shelrockbored at aol.com
>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late model coupe or co...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?I have found 5 rear 1/4's so far in my search. 1 left side 68-69 convt (a rough?light to medium surface rust ?NOS part ). 1 left side 65-67 coupe and?3 r ight side coupe with prices from $350 to $900 plus shipping which will be pricey as well.? 
>> 
>> 
>> ? A high price for a good panel is not necessarily an issue . 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ? ? If, I were to repair this gentleman's existing 1/4 panel I would?expend likely 40 ?hours of labor in t he repair (more than ?half of the time being spent fabricating or sectioning the bottom front 4 inches?of it from wheel openin g to door as well as the rear latch post at the bottom. The rest of the time would be spent shaping the 5 foot long by 1 foot tall section along the side of the 1/4 that looks like someone had a ballpeen hammer party?from both sides over the entire area in a poor old repair (a couple 1/2inch holes where the metal?was stretched so far that they sand thru it).?So the cost ot this repair is $1,600?labor 40/hr, plus a couple hundred bucks in materials, so around $1,800. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The cost of repairing with?truely good clean new undamaged ?panel would be the cost of the panel plus about 10 hours. Lets just say the panel costs $900 and it cost $ 5 00 to ship it in. Given this the total cost would be?$400 labor+?$1,400 part +? $75 materials =?$1,875. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ?The cost in this case is similar however the gains for the quality of the car can be great. With the 1/4 removed any rust on the inner panels and especially in the door latch post can be addressed and repaired.?The other benefit in my case is not having body filler over a 5 foot long section inside and outside the 1/4 panel to a total thickness of perhaps 3/4's of an inch from engine compartment side to the outer painted surface. 
>> 
>> ? 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> From: Shelrockbored at aol.com 
>> To: tterribleted at comcast.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org 
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:27:52 PM 
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Needed: NOS Drivers side rear 1/4 panel for a late model coupe or co... 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Corvair Ranch couldn't help you? 
>> ? 
>> ? 
>> In a message dated 4/22/2013 5:41:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tterribleted at comcast.net writes: 
>> 
>> I need a NOS left 1/4 panel for a 1965 convertible. Convertible, coupe or later model with marker hole OK (only a 4 door unit will not be usable). I am located in Atlanta, Georgia, closer is better, driving distance (within 250 miles) ?is better still.? An extremly nice used ?1/4 section of car within 250 miles might be a possibility as well...it must be absolutly rust hole free and not badly dented. Ted 
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