<VV> Expert witness info - Corvair included
Shelrockbored at aol.com
Shelrockbored at aol.com
Tue Apr 16 23:47:21 EDT 2013
read/skimmed the narrative with interest. What one has to bear in mind
with this kind of science is that
things are never black and white, there is always gray. Maybe the
government did find the earlies to be safe but does not mean that there was no
defect. I came away with a new insight which I had only partially realized.
One car can get fouled up due on a bad day. Design flaw is much worse. It
would mean that they would have to recall ALL the cards wiping out
whatever profit they had made.
It's easy to call criticism an exercise composed of snake oil. It is much
harder to say why. When I read, "Unsafe at Any Speed" I found that much
of Nader's criticism made sense. All points of view should be considered
not just one. Even if he is wrong that is still a point of view.
Steve Sassi
LICA
In a message dated 4/14/2013 12:41:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
corvairduval at cox.net writes:
I have a different view, as I skipped to many pages deep before reading
anything. I can not say I would agree with any other ramblings he wrote,
as I only read this one so far.
I found his report on the Audi 5000. I agree with everything he says on
this particular subject.
I'll skip to the chase:
All the unintended acceleration reports of the Audi 5000 were just
people stepping on the wrong pedal.
The only fault on Audi's part was a slightly offset pedal placement from
what was "normal" back then.
Now for the good part, I have personal experience of steeping on the
wrong pedal, TWICE! Let me tell you it is hard to convince yourself your
foot is on the wrong pedal, even when the "brake" pedal is on the floor
and a solid object is getting bigger in your sight. Both time by the
time I reacted and moved my foot to the correct brake pedal, I had
stopped by the force of the unmoveable object. No, not a Corvair, but
cars I wasn't used to driving, just moving around the shop. One was
right hand drive. BTW, it was the clutch pedal I found with my right
foot, not the accelerator pedal. One wasn't even running, just going
down a slope. Enough for now, maybe the statue of limitations hasn't
gone away yet.
Frank DuVal
On 4/14/2013 10:13 AM, Ken Klingaman wrote:
> I read his first case late last night, and contrary to other previous
readings, I will not/can not reread this self promotional drivel.
>
> As much as we, as a society, want to blame someone for what happens,
sometimes S**t happens. I can't comment on the accident recreation, I was not
there nor did we see all of his data.
>
> Ken Klingaman
>
> For some reason, probably the outcome of a Google search, I ended up at
the
> Blog of a crash scene investigator. He was a GM employee, worked on
> Corvair lawsuit response, and left GM. He eventually ended up on the
"other
> side", so to speak. His name is Carl F. Thelin. A link to his musings
is below.
> He does talk about many "events", as he calls them, as well as
discussing
> the court rituals he has experienced, etc. I am not endorsing his
> suggestions, his conclusions or even his observations, but I found it
interesting
> reading. Plenty of Corvair discussion is included. Some of it will,
indeed
> piss you off. But that is what discussion is for, isn't it? - Seth
Emerson
>
> http://cxsi.blogspot.com/
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