<VV> CHT Re: valve seats and "Ping"
FrankCB at aol.com
FrankCB at aol.com
Sun May 13 14:16:41 EDT 2012
Matt and John,
Some decades ago when I drove my 1965 180 regularly to work, it would
NORMALLY run at 400 deg.F (stock gauge and thermistor) on level highways
at 55 to 70 mph. Occasionally I would "floor it" going up a long hill to
see what boost I got and the stock CHT would go to 450 deg.F. but I did have
a electronic knock eliminator (Carter EKE) which may have saved me. The
boost reached 8 psig on a non stock gauge. It was only after I insulated the
exhaust piping UPSTREAM of the turbo that I was able to get 10 psig. But
the stock exhaust piping lasted only about 6 months before it disintegrated
at the UP-bend due to overheating of the metal (according to the chief
metallurgist at the chemical plant where I worked).
My other Corvairs (110 and 95 hp models) I ran with an aftermarket
CHT gauge installed. This was a Stewart Warner "Corvair Cylinder Head
Temperature Gauge" (Model 366-LW) with a gauge that ran from an indicated 200 to
500 deg.F. and included a thermistor that was installed in the STOCK 3/8
in. tapped hole in the "forward portion of the left cylinder head". I
checked the calibration of the gauge in boiling water and it was right on using
14 volts. In operation both the 110 and 95 hp engines normally indicated
350 deg. F. Except for the two times when I let it get up to 450. One time
I had to drive home on only 3 cylinders due to only one functioning carb
fortunately on the left bank. The other time I had to drive home local roads
with NO functioning fan due to harmonic balancer separation. Both times
when the temp got over 450, I stopped for a time and let the engine cool off
before resuming my trip. Both times the engine suffered no apparent
damage, but it did have the advantage of synthetic engine oil and Viton O-rings.
That's why I believe EVERY Corvair needs at least ONE CHT gauge.
Frank "likes gauges" Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
In a message dated 5/10/2012 4:08:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
patiomatt at aol.com writes:
OK, after some reflection, that may be a bit too conservative. I do know,
once
CHT reaches 400F or more, detonation and preignition become a LOT more
prevalent
here. And no doubt, all that knocking will beat on things in a way that
not only
kills power, but engine parts as well, and seats come to mind...
John Roberts
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My exact beliefs! When in SoCal I did everything possible to keep from
pinging...keep the heads near 300F.
No that I'm on the Oregon coast I find I can run the 400f for
efficiency.... and not rattle!
I've only lost 3 seats in my life.
Matt Nall
Charleston, Oregon
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