Trim it is! Thanks to everyone who answered. --Bryan Bryan Blackwell bryan at skiblack.com http://autoxer.skiblack.com/ Corvairs: '62 700 Wagon, '64 Greenbrier, '65 Corsa, '66 Corsa '69 Road Runner, '99 Neon R/T, '00 Miata SE, '09 Ford F-150 Kid cars: '00 Grand Marquis, '99 Miata "Why do something if you're not going to obsess about it?"