<VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?

Tue Feb 7 13:17:04 EST 2012

Look on the bright side Jack.  Usually they say they replaced a '65 or earlier Saginaw with a '66 or later Muncie.  At least the LLM trans is being called a Saginaw.

Bob

For the 2,234,567th time.  ALL CORVAIR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS ARE SAGINAW!
his is posted in the futile hope that the Muncie vs. Saginaw thing can ever 
e stomped out.
he devil made me do it. :-)
ack - Vegas Vairs - Las Vegas

-----Original Message-----
From: John O'Shea <jco99 at cox.net>
To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?

For the 2,234,567th time.  ALL CORVAIR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS ARE SAGINAW!
his is posted in the futile hope that the Muncie vs. Saginaw thing can ever 
e stomped out.
he devil made me do it. :-)
ack - Vegas Vairs - Las Vegas
----- Original Message ----- 
rom: "Charles Lee" <chaz at properproper.com>
o: "'shortle'" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; <jvhroberts at aol.com>; 
virtualvairs at corvair.org>
ent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:54 AM
ubject: <VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?

 Correct-o-right-O ~

 The front crossmember is "offset" to accommodate the longer tranny (as in
 transmission, not a transvestite) case.

 Also, as I found out back then when a non-Corvair guy replaced my 1965
 4-speed with a Saginaw (all he could find?), he may have failed to 
 recognize
 that the oil paths in the gasket need to be changed? My pinion gear melted
 (yes, the big one melted) and all the squished little pieces of bearings
 when the transaxle case seized and split (at about 70 MPH).

 I think he made his own gasket htat might have been missing a hole ~ is 
 that
 possible ?

 Are the gaskets different ?
 I realy don't want to go down that road again ! ("That road," ironically,
 was the "SOB" on Long Island)

 Thanks again,
 Charlie

 -----Original Message-----
 From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
 [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of shortle
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:13 AM
 To: Charles Lee; jvhroberts at aol.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
 Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?

 "the brackets"
 Do you mean the transmission support crossmember? Please elaborate. 
 Thanks.
 (Sorry Charlie, I couldn't resist).
 Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301

 -----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2012 12:09 AM
>To: jvhroberts at aol.com, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
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>Correct-o-mundo ~ the "input shaft" is what I should have said ~ mea culpa
 !
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>I recall changing a 65 4-speed to a 66 Saginaw 4-speed and the brackets
>needed to be changed to accommodate the longer box.
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>Good to know that the shaft is not an issue with the LLM (that's
>Late-Late-Model) 4-speed,
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>Thanks for the much-appreciated responses ~
>
>Charlie
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>From: jvhroberts at aol.com [mailto:jvhroberts at aol.com]
>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:53 PM
>To: chaz at properproper.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
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>If by driveshaft you mean input shaft, here's the scoop:
>On 65s, the 3 speed shaft is shorter than the 4 speed shaft.
>On 66-69s the 3 and 4 speeds use the same shaft.
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>John Roberts
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>To: 'VirtualVairs' <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 7:34 pm
>Subject: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
>
>Is the driveshaft length on 3-speed shorter/longer/same length on LM
 4-speed
>?
>
>Thanks !
>Charlie
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