<VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?

[shortle]

Jack, NOT TRUE. I am 99% certain Gay Fox's late model Corvair is a manual transmission. And I am also 99% certain he is using an aluminum case 4 speed Muncie transmission. (I guess the devil made me do it also).
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
(I have never owned a V8 Corvair or a 1960) 


-----Original Message-----
>From: John O'Shea <jco99 at cox.net>
>Sent: Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM
>To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Subject: Re: <VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?
>
>For the 2,234,567th time.  ALL CORVAIR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS ARE SAGINAW!
>This is posted in the futile hope that the Muncie vs. Saginaw thing can ever 
>be stomped out.
>The devil made me do it. :-)
>Jack - Vegas Vairs - Las Vegas
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Charles Lee" <chaz at properproper.com>
>To: "'shortle'" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; <jvhroberts at aol.com>; 
><virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:54 AM
>Subject: <VV> LM/LLM 4-speed gaskets different ?
>
>
>> Correct-o-right-O ~
>>
>> The front crossmember is "offset" to accommodate the longer tranny (as in
>> transmission, not a transvestite) case.
>>
>> Also, as I found out back then when a non-Corvair guy replaced my 1965
>> 4-speed with a Saginaw (all he could find?), he may have failed to 
>> recognize
>> that the oil paths in the gasket need to be changed? My pinion gear melted
>> (yes, the big one melted) and all the squished little pieces of bearings
>> when the transaxle case seized and split (at about 70 MPH).
>>
>> I think he made his own gasket htat might have been missing a hole ~ is 
>> that
>> possible ?
>>
>> Are the gaskets different ?
>> I realy don't want to go down that road again ! ("That road," ironically,
>> was the "SOB" on Long Island)
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
>> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of shortle
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 8:13 AM
>> To: Charles Lee; jvhroberts at aol.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
>>
>> "the brackets"
>> Do you mean the transmission support crossmember? Please elaborate. 
>> Thanks.
>> (Sorry Charlie, I couldn't resist).
>> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>>>Sent: Feb 7, 2012 12:09 AM
>>>To: jvhroberts at aol.com, virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
>>>
>>>Correct-o-mundo ~ the "input shaft" is what I should have said ~ mea culpa
>> !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I recall changing a 65 4-speed to a 66 Saginaw 4-speed and the brackets
>>>needed to be changed to accommodate the longer box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Good to know that the shaft is not an issue with the LLM (that's
>>>Late-Late-Model) 4-speed,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for the much-appreciated responses ~
>>>
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: jvhroberts at aol.com [mailto:jvhroberts at aol.com]
>>>Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:53 PM
>>>To: chaz at properproper.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>If by driveshaft you mean input shaft, here's the scoop:
>>>On 65s, the 3 speed shaft is shorter than the 4 speed shaft.
>>>On 66-69s the 3 and 4 speeds use the same shaft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John Roberts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Charles Lee <chaz at properproper.com>
>>>To: 'VirtualVairs' <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 7:34 pm
>>>Subject: <VV> Driveshaft length on 3-speed vs. 4-speed ?
>>>
>>>Is the driveshaft length on 3-speed shorter/longer/same length on LM
>> 4-speed
>>>?
>>>
>>>Thanks !
>>>Charlie
>>>
>>>
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