<VV> Saginaw Legacies

[Charles Lee]

Ah !  The voice of reason ~ clarity prevails ...

And, another urban legend survives !

Thanks for the tutorial ~

Charlie


-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Sethracer at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:38 AM
To: jco99 at cox.net; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: <VV> Saginaw Legacies

Hey Jack -
I searched in vain for a "Muncie" reference in the email to which you  
replied. I think the train left the station a long time ago on the reference
to  
the 66-up box as a "Saginaw" transmission. 
 
The "nickname" Saginaw in the description has NOTHING to do with the  
location of the plant where it was built, although it was built in Saginaw,
MI.  
The name "Saginaw" refers to the commonality with the "Saginaw-built"  
4-speed transmissions that were introduced in the front
engine/rear-wheel-drive  
GM vehicles in the same 66 time frame. Many parts are in-common with  those 
transmissions. Those front-engined cars still had other stick  
transmissions, notably the Muncie 4-speed and the Borg-Warner T-10. That is
why  the 
Saginaw 4-speed trans was called the Saginaw, to differentiate them from the

Muncie and the Borg-Warner in the other cars. 
 
Of course, if you want to call your 64-65 4-speed a Saginaw-built trans,  
you have every right to. It was built there. So your phrase is correct with 
one  added word:
 
ALL CORVAIR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS ARE SAGINAW BUILT!
 
- Seth Emerson


In a message dated 2/7/2012 10:12:25 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
jco99 at cox.net writes:

For the  2,234,567th time.  ALL CORVAIR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS ARE SAGINAW!
This  is posted in the futile hope that the Muncie vs. Saginaw thing can 
ever 
be  stomped out.
The devil made me do it. :-)
Jack - Vegas Vairs - Las  Vegas
Because of:
 
 "Also, as I found out back then when a non-Corvair guy replaced my  1965
> 4-speed with a Saginaw (all he could find?), he may have failed to  
> recognize
> that the oil paths in the gasket need to be changed?  My pinion gear 
melted
> (yes, the big one melted) and all the squished  little pieces of bearings
> when the transaxle case seized and split (at  about 70 MPH).




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