<VV> Expensive Gasoline
jvhroberts at aol.com
jvhroberts at aol.com
Thu Dec 13 17:22:13 EST 2012
So, to sum up, under Obama, oil and gas production are up, domestically, but not under the oil man Dubya.
Thanks for clarifying the obvious.
John Roberts
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John,
While fracking WAS intended to get more natural gas it has also increased our production of petroleum. That's what's helping to reduce our import of oil. But the big increase in natural gas has so dropped the price (compared to coal and oil) that some municipalities (such as Indianapolis) are beginning to convert their vehicles to run on that fuel instead of oil or gasoline. Only a few years ago plans were made to construct liquified natural gas terminals so we could IMPORT natural gas to feed our growing need. NOW, however, these plans are being changed to make EXPORT terminals to ship out natural gas to areas like the Far East where its price is now THREE times what it is in the USA. No thanks to the 35 year-old Energy Dept. for these improvements, but I'm sure the government will take credit for them.
"Oy gevalt"? And a Happy Chanukah to you, John!!!
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
In a message dated 12/11/2012 11:40:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jvhroberts at aol.com writes:
So, it's private? Big deal. And fracking is primarily to augment natural gas production.
ME... Oy gevalt...
John Roberts
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Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:37 pm
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While domestic oil production HAS increased it's all due to PRIVATE efforts and not the Dept. of Energy. It's called hydraulic fracturing ("fracking") invented by PRIVATE individuals and done on PRIVATE instead of government owned land.
I didn't realize that Maine (ME) had a significant oil production. Thanks for sharing that with us.
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
In a message dated 12/10/2012 8:46:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jvhroberts at aol.com writes:
In all fairness, domestic oil production is up by ~30% as compared to this time last year.
And the marketplace is what drove imported oil. ME oil is cheaper to recover and cheaper to refine. So...
John Roberts
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Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:38 pm
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Timothy,
Don't worry! Our supremely wise and loving government set up the
Dept. of Energy a few years ago (35 to be exact) to reduce our dependency on
imported petroleum. With lots of hard work and effort they have managed to
reduce it from 30% of all the oil we use down to 50%.
"We're from the government. We're here to HELP you."
Frank Burkhard
Boonton, NJ
In a message dated 12/10/2012 7:45:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
shortle556 at earthlink.net writes:
You don't need to be brave (unless your wife doesn't want you using her
TIDE laundry detergent). Just don't let her catch you doing it. And don't use
gasoline- too expensive. I just bought some today for $3.07 per gallon
(what a ripoff).
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado 81301
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