<VV> Late 4-doors

[jvhroberts at aol.com]

 The generally accepted definition is the two doors are coupes and the four doors are sedans. This is how we've identified them all this time. 

 

John Roberts
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Pepke <kenpepke at juno.com>
To: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>; Vair Views <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Cc: Clark Hartzel <chartzel at comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:08 am
Subject: Re: <VV> Late 4-doors



OK, Clark … 42+ years as a design engineer at Fisher Body [and continuing on 
after they deleted the Fisher name] taught me that in the automotive industry 
[SAE] the definition of a SEDAN is a vehicle with a row of passenger seats 
behind the driver seat.

A SEDAN can be two doors or four doors.  It can be with a 'B' pillar or without.  
It can be a convertible with 2 or 4 doors.

A STATION WAGON can be 2 or 4 doors and generally has two rows of seating, or 
one row of seating and a load floor, behind the driver.

Originally a COUPE was a 2 door that had no row of seating behind the driver.  
Later the 'Club' Coupe added an abbreviated row of seats behind the driver and 
differed from a two door sedan by the smaller volume of the space behind the 
driver.  It may or may not have a fixed 'B' pillar.  

So, both EM and LM 4 door Corvairs are SEDANS by virtue of their row or seating 
behind the driver.

The real question is are EM Corvairs two door sedans or coupes?  How about LMs?  
I have never seen published the volume of either so I cannot compare it to the 
SAE standards … and visually it is kind of close to call.  My guess they would 
be SEDANS.  The convertibles would both be coupes because the top mechanism 
reduces the volume of the area behind the driver seat.

Ken P
Wyandotte, MI
65 Monza 110hp 4 speed 2 door
Worry looks around; Sorry looks back, Faith looks up.

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On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Clark Hartzel wrote:

> Is it time to start the argument that late 4-doors are not sedans?
> Sedans have a B pillar.  The Corvair is a 4-door hardtop with no B pillars.
> GRIN, Clark Hartzel 

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