<VV> Soap - enough? - and some scary facts

[Bob Tarpenning]

While we are talking about soap, has anyone heard about putting a bar of
soap in the car (I forgot the brand) to keep rodents out.  I tried this in
my '54 Ford Victoria.  I checked it out a while later and it was 1/2 gone,
eaten by rodents.  So much for that good idea. I couldn't tell that they had
chewed on the car.  Just the smell of mouse pee.
Bob T

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[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Frank DuVal
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:23 PM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Soap - enough? - and some scary facts

Well, not wanting to extend the thread didn't work. Some of your thoughts
are conflicting.

If hotel soap is lower quality, wouldn't that fit into the first comment
about using the bargain brands?

What storage and handling differences are there between name, bargain and
hotel bars? Most hotel bars come wrapped in plastic. Trucks ship most soaps,
so most are exposed to high temperatures in the summer, freezing temps in
winter. Large chain stores have their own no A/C warehouses for
distribution. Why would hotel be different?

You must not travel by plane if you take your liquid soap with you!

I also do not know why one would want to remove natural skin bacteria. 
We've lived with it for years.

If you are worried about the legal level of contaminants in chewing gum,
give up eating anything you didn't raise yourself. These same levels are in
all food processed in a factory. Think flour, starch, grains, cereal, sugar,
etc. Now aren't you glad you mentioned this? The good news is that with
these levels, we are not seeing problems. We do see bacteria outbreaks in
food, but not usually from these contaminate sources.

Remember Ivory? I still use it! Now where is an Octagon soap distributor? I
have some old laundry to wash....

Frank DuVal


On 8/17/2012 8:12 PM, Grant Young wrote:
> I'm not sure why saving soap is on this site, but I used to work for 
> one of the world's biggest soap manufacturers - P&G - remember Ivory? 
> You should NOT save soap. One of the reasons - other than convenience 
> - of the move to liquid soap is for sanitary reasons. Soap doesn't 
> really do much cleaning, it mainly captures the crud released by 
> scrubbing friction(so buy the bargain brands)..and a lot of that crud 
> makes its way onto and into the soap. When you save it, you save the 
> crud to put back on your bod. If you use a very hot shower or bath, 
> you increase your chance of having it get into your pores and 
> respiratory system. Manufactures didn't plan on people saving the 
> contaminants - they just figured the bar would go away. To make 
> matters worse, the convenience bars in hotels are of significantly 
> lower quality and often contain more additives to smell good, not to 
> mention having questionable storage and handling. I don't use it when 
> I travel, preferring to carry my own liqui
 d.
>    My concern for those who persist with this silliness to save a dollar
or so a month is that you might wind up with a big dollar medical bill (and
you could die). If you read the directions on hand sanitizer you will
discover that it won't work unless you use soap first. Otherwise it just
spreads whatever is on your hands because it can't sanitize crud, but is
meant to work on the natural skin bacteria. It was made for hospitals to use
on clean hands and has been mis-marketed and is essentially a scam for home
use.
> As another unrelated aside, I also worked in the chemical division of 
> a large company - Int. Paper - who made additives (resin) that wound 
> up in chewing gum, and as a result of knowing what is in it (and the 
> legal level of organic contaminants (rat droppings and bug parts, for 
> example) have not chewed a piece of gum since....it really might be 
> better for a temporary Corvair repair. I am NOT trying to extend the 
> thread :-) Grant



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