<VV> Turbos made a difference Re: 4 Speed to PG

[jvhroberts at aol.com]

And a LOT more cars are quicker with manual trannies. My 300ZXTT, my 
Legacy GT, my wife's Forester XT, etc., every turbo car I've ever owned 
is/was quicker with a stick. And usually by quite a bit! In the case of 
the Subarus, add 1.5 seconds to the 0-60 times with an auto. Add 1 
second for the Z. And so on. These are cars which spool up VERY 
quickly, and closing the throttle doesn't do much compared to all the 
losses of a sloppy auto slushbox!
If you're losing that much boost on a shift, you need a better turbo!!

John Roberts

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Subject: Turbos made a difference Re: <VV> 4 Speed to PG


John,
 
Gee, maybe we should tell Billy Bruce that he would be FASTER if he 
switched from his automatic trans to a manual trans!!!!<GGGG>
 
In addition, I've seen a number of magazine tests of stock TURBO cars 
with manual trans  and the same car with automatic trans and 
frequently, for the 0 to 60 mph times the turbo cars with automatic 
beat the manual shift cars.  The automatic trans cars shift WITHOUT 
closing the throttle and slowing down the turbocharger thereby REDUCING 
boost.
Reminds me that when Dick Griffin was drag racing his stick-shift EM 
Corvair, he said he drove to the starting line with FULL throttle using 
the brakes to control the engine speed.  If the race started promptly, 
he usually won, but if there was a delay things cooled down and he 
frequently lost the race.
 
Frank "turbos need wide open throttles" Burkhard 
 

In a message dated 3/16/2011 9:46:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
jvhroberts at aol.com writes:
Well,   yeah, consistently slower!! <g>

I'm with Seth on this one, with   an auto, you're a passenger in the
wrong seat. With VERY few exceptions,   when two cars, one stick, one
auto, otherwise identical, the stick is   definitely the quicker car.

John Roberts