<VV> Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners

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Good for you.

Chuck S


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ramon Rodriguez III" <corvairgrymm at gmail.com>
To: "lonwall at corvairunderground.com" <corvairs at pacifier.com>; 
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Research - Black 63 Spyder Aircleaners


>I also have located (and presented a copy of) a 1963 print ad for the
> Corvair that clearly shows the Spyder engine room with a black air cleaner
> housing.  That's pretty solid.
> Here it is again:
> http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f90/Swiftblade13/?action=view&current=63Spyderad.jpg
>
> I've also spoke with approximately five original owners of 63 Spyders who
> say they were black.  Of course, I can prove neither that they were
> original owners, nor that their memory is correct.  Still it's pretty
> compelling evidence especially given that not one person has contacted me
> and stated that they were the original owner of a 63 Spyder with a chrome
> air cleaner, while seven did exactly that and reported black.
>
> Thank you very much to all those who showed your support of my inquiries,
> as well as those who participated in my survey.  I am learning all I can
> about the Corvair, including it's history, so that I might carry the torch
> for the next generation.  I have read "The Corvair Decade", "Corvair by
> Chevrolet: Experimental and Production cars", "Corvair: A photo history",
> and others cover to cover (most numerous times).  I've started collecting
> issues of 60's magazines that have feature articles on the Corvair
> (including the Car Life reprint from Clark's), and I have just obtained
> copies of "The Classic Corvair" and Charlie "Bud" Doerge's new book "Don
> Yenko and the Yenko Stinger" and I even have a copy of "Unsafe at Any 
> Speed
> that is older than I am.   I have listened to Ralphie's speech at the 1991
> CORSA convention in it's entirety.  I have read the Robert Benzinger 
> speech
> from the 1975 convention.  I love to relate his story about the Corvair
> flywheel to my fellow hobbyists.  My next purchase (when I can afford it)
> will be "Corvair Secrets".  I can identify the year of any Corvair (Car,
> not yet FC's) given that all it's features are original, and I'm slowly
> learning more and more about how the cars are put together and how to
> repair them.  I also own copies of "How to Hotrod Corvair Engines", "How 
> to
> Keep your Corvair Alive", the CORSA tech guide 1 & 2, "Corvair Basics",
> 1961 through 1963 and 65-66 factory shop manuals, and the 1965 assembly
> manual.  I have attended the DACC Homecoming the past two years (which is
> over 550 miles from home), I managed to attend one day of the Buffalo 
> CORSA
> convention and plan to do my best to make it to the 2012 convention.   All
> of this and five Corvairs (three projects in the works and two on the 
> road)
> on a budget that probably wouldn't pay a "middle class" electric bill.
>
> All of this, at age 31.  I might ask some dumb questions and make plenty 
> of
> mistakes.  Some of you might not approve of my fat tires and loud exhaust,
> and some might look down on my amateur body and rust repairs, but I
> challenge you to find anyone more determined to carry the Corvair hobby
> into the next 50 years.
>
>
> Ray "Grymm" Rodriguez III
> Lake Ariel, PA
> 1966 Corsa 140 coupe (daily driver)
> 1965 Corsa 180 coupe (under construction)
> 1965 Corsa 140 coupe (for sale/under construction)
> 1963 Monza PG coupe (daily driver)
> 1962 Monza PG coupe (under construction)
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:19 PM, lonwall at corvairunderground.com <
> corvairs at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry Matt, but a picture of a black air cleaner on a 63 proves
>> nothing.  (That's 48 years of tampering) But you're right on the other
>> point. Getting posts confused is just part of the internet destruction
>> of proper history.
>>
>> Lon
>> www.corvairunderground.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2011 2:58 PM, Matt Nall wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >   Ray has presented some hard evidence
>> >
>> > ======================================
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >    NO he didn't!!  he ASKED the question!
>> >
>> >
>> > DTerry  gave the only    substantiated evidence!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.vv.corvair.org/pipermail/virtualvairs/attachments/20111214/72e317e7/attachment.jpe
>> >
>> >
>> > Matt Nall
>> > Charleston, Oregon
>> > http://tinyurl.com/The-Patio
>> > http://tinyurl.com/Matts-Tech-Pages
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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