<VV> Just got the 28,000 mile Corsa damage - proving it

[J R Read]

They had to jump it to start it and did not know how to open the lid?
Later, JR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <chaz at properproper.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Cc: "Tom Berg" <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>; "Vairtec Corporation" 
<Vairtec at optonline.net>; "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:21 PM
Subject: <VV> Just got the 28,000 mile Corsa damage - proving it


> All of the "towed/shipped backward" theories seem not to explain the
> damage to the lock pin on the lid.
>
> I can't see a wind speed sufficient to do that, hence someone/somethng
> pried/ripped the lid open, breaking the pin.
>
> "it was that way when you brought it here" is the mantra of all
> repairmen of all ilk.
>
> I had a windshield replaced, with all those screws and caps around the
> edge on a non-Corvair, and I made a point that they were all there, and
> that "they should be there when I pick it up."
>
> Well, when I picked it up, of course half of them were missing, and he
> said, without skipping a beat, "It was that way when you ... " and then
> remembered our conversation and went to look for the parts, which he
> found under the car.
>
> Sort of reminds me of the scorpion and frog : "It what we do" rings a
> bell here, so, you need proof that it was NOT "that way when you brought
> it here."
>
> Wind just doesn't seem to be the cause of the damage IMHO, so wht did ?
>
> Charlie
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28, 000 mile Corsa dropped off - good
>> news/bad news.
>> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>> Date: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:05 am
>> To: "Tom Berg" <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>, "Vairtec Corporation"
>> <Vairtec at optonline.net>, <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>
>>
>> Well, if it was caused by the wind of motion pushing up a not fully 
>> latched
>> (sticky latch?) deck lid, I can see where the carrier could make a case 
>> for
>> mechanical failure of the latch.
>> Later, JR
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Berg" <thesuperscribe at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Vairtec Corporation" <Vairtec at optonline.net>;
>> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28,000 mile Corsa dropped off - good 
>> news/bad
>> news.
>>
>>
>> The damage you describe is not "mechanical failure," but body damage.
>>
>> Did you specify that the car was to be hauled in a closed van, or did you
>> leave
>> closed vs. open to the carrier?
>>
>>
>> --Tom in Ohio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
>> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>> Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 9:27:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Just got the 28, 000 mile Corsa dropped off - good
>> news/bad
>> news.
>>
>> On 4/20/2011 11:29 PM, psergeant wrote:
>>
>> > Somehow, the deck lid was opened quite violently. So violently that it 
>> > the
>> >pivot pin on the lid support at the lid end was ripped out of the hole 
>> >and
>> >is
>> >gone. The lid was pushed forward (open) so hard that the front edge of 
>> >the
>> >deck
>> >lid dented the air grill and bent the hinge supports such that the lid
>> >doesn't
>> >close properly. (it is now very tight up against the air grill). I have 
>> >had
>> >initial conversations with the shipping broker and he said "they cannot 
>> >be
>> >responsible for mechanical failure of my car". I am going to continue to
>> >pursue
>> >the shipper/broker. Anyone have comments/thoughts on what the liability 
>> >is
>> >to
>> >the shipper(?)
>>
>> My WAG is that the car was shipped on an open carrier, rear-end first,
>> and that the deck lid was not latched. LM latches (and some EM too)
>> have been known to stick in the unlatched position when old and
>> disused. Anyway, the wind caught it, flipping it open with the force
>> you describe.
>>
>> As others have noted, without some way to demonstrate that the car was
>> undamaged prior to shipping...
>>
>> --Bob Marlow
>>
>>
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