<VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?

John O'Shea jco99 at cox.net
Thu Sep 16 01:18:04 EDT 2010 

Charlie the reason Clark's doesn't include the nuts on the brake cables any 
more is because people like you used to bitch about that too.
They complained about paying the extra money so Clark's listed the nuts in 
the catalog right by the brake cables for anyone to see.

J. O'Shea
Vegas Vairs - Las Vegas



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
To: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; "Daniel Monasterio" 
<dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?


> Hooda thunk you'd need to order the nuts separately ?  They're less than 
> 20
> cents ?????
>
> I ordered by phone and specified the make model year PG etc.
>
> These are Corvair people, or at least they used to be ?
>
> ~Cz
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
> To: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; "Charles Lee"
> <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio" <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>;
> "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>
>
>>I just took a look at the Clarks catalogue and they show 3 different front
>>hand brake cables for Corvair cars. Which one did you get? And right below
>>them are the nuts (to be ordered seperately).
>> TS in DC
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>To: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>, Daniel Monasterio
>>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>>>
>>>Understood. You sound frustrated to me so maybe just take a deep breath
>>>and walk away from it for awhile. That has worked for me many times over
>>>in my career as an auto mechanic. If you believe the cable is too short, 
>>>e
>>>mail Clarks and ask them to measure another cable length and compare that
>>>measurement with yours. This will keep them from sending another one that
>>>is too short and you having to wait more for something that also will not
>>>work. Are you certain you are routing the cable properly? Without trying
>>>to make you more frustrated, the PROPER way to do this is to:
>>>1. Hook up cable to lever (ball end)
>>>2. Route cable properly to undercarriage hooking up to (lubed) pulleys
>>>3. Install forward nut onto (lubed) stud [part of cable]
>>>4. Put thru rearward cable (the one that goes to both rear wheels)
>>>5. Install rear nut and adjust for proper handbrake operation
>>>Again, wishing you good luck and I hope to see you and your car next 
>>>month
>>>in Palm Springs
>>>Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:58 PM
>>>>To: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>, Daniel Monasterio
>>>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>>>>
>>>>PS:
>>>>
>>>>No, it's easier to work inside the car - seats removed, plenty of room,
>>>>and
>>>>nosy neighbors can't see me inside the car (except my feet sometimes)
>>>>because I have to put it up on stands to work underneath.
>>>>
>>>>Most problems have many solutions - the trick is to find a solution that
>>>>doesn't cause even more problems !
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Charlie
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>>>>To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio"
>>>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:26 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It wouldn't. But it will be easier to install if you finish the job
>>>>> under
>>>>> the car than trying to finish it under the dash. And I believe you are
>>>>> getting pretty good at this job.Did you compare the lengths of the 2
>>>>> cables? I know the original had broke but you still ought to be able 
>>>>> to
>>>>> compare the 2 lengths. As always, wishing you good luck.
>>>>> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>>>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:10 PM
>>>>>>To: Daniel Monasterio <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs
>>>>>><virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just curious, but how would that change the length ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>~Cz
>>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>  From: Daniel Monasterio
>>>>>>  To: Charles Lee ; VirtualVairs
>>>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:01 PM
>>>>>>  Subject: RE: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Think you are working backwards. You should start at the ball end,
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Daniel Monasterio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > From: Chaz at ProperProper.com
>>>>>>  > To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>>>>  > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:42:17 -0700
>>>>>>  > Subject: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Is the park brake different for EM and LM ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > If so, is one shorter, and what other visible difference is there 
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Problem : I just installed Clark's cable, and reached into the bag
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  > adjustment nuts ? Aarrgghh....
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > I guess they figured we'd re-use the old ones ? OK, but the old
>>>>>> ones
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>  > rusted tight to the old cable and I can't get them off, so I'll
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> get
>>>>>>  > some new ones, right ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > To be certain that I got the right ones before walking a mile each
>>>>>> way, I
>>>>>>  > called Clark's to get the right size :
>>>>>>  > The girl says "5/16 24" so I hike over to the hardware store to 
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> the two
>>>>>>  > (2) 18 cent 5/16 24 nuts that Clark's does not include (why not 
>>>>>> ?).
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > So rethread the cable and wrestle with the 5/16 24's a while but 
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> go, so I
>>>>>>  > rip the cable back out and take it with me this time (those 
>>>>>> pulleys
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>  > the dash are NOT fun !)
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > So I try a few more 5/16 24, but they're not 5/16 ***24*** !
>>>>>>  > They're 5/16 ***18***.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > OK, so back home and thread the needle again, - I'm getting pretty
>>>>>> good at
>>>>>>  > this, the third time.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Now, the ball doesn't reach the handle under the dash, so I go 
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>  > and extend the nuts all the way to the end of the adjustment part
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>  > tail end to get a few more inches.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Still the ball end does not reach.
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Have I been short changed ?
>>>>>>  > Do I have an EM park brake cable ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Or, am I missing something (again) ?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Thanks in advance for your support !
>>>>>>  > Charlie
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
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