<VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?

Charles Lee Chaz at ProperProper.com
Wed Sep 15 23:23:46 EDT 2010 

Believe me, I have taken a deep breath and walked away many times - usually 
to the FLAPS for parts, or Harbor Freight for more tools.

If this were just a "toy" I could, but it's taken way too long already and 
always it's something strange that happens.

Right now, all I need to know is whether an EM cable is shorter than an LM 
cable, which will tell me I have the wrong one.

If I'm doing something wrong, I can find out how to do it right, and not 
wait for a new one to get here.

I'll cal Clark's in the AM, about the wrong nuts, since if they had given me 
the right information, I would have discovered the new problem before they 
closed !

That's why I asked VV in the meantime, waiting for them to re-open.

Thanks,
Charlie



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio" 
<dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?


> Understood. You sound frustrated to me so maybe just take a deep breath 
> and walk away from it for awhile. That has worked for me many times over 
> in my career as an auto mechanic. If you believe the cable is too short, e 
> mail Clarks and ask them to measure another cable length and compare that 
> measurement with yours. This will keep them from sending another one that 
> is too short and you having to wait more for something that also will not 
> work. Are you certain you are routing the cable properly? Without trying 
> to make you more frustrated, the PROPER way to do this is to:
> 1. Hook up cable to lever (ball end)
> 2. Route cable properly to undercarriage hooking up to (lubed) pulleys
> 3. Install forward nut onto (lubed) stud [part of cable]
> 4. Put thru rearward cable (the one that goes to both rear wheels)
> 5. Install rear nut and adjust for proper handbrake operation
> Again, wishing you good luck and I hope to see you and your car next month 
> in Palm Springs
> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:58 PM
>>To: shortle <shortle556 at earthlink.net>, Daniel Monasterio 
>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - work inside the car ?
>>
>>PS:
>>
>>No, it's easier to work inside the car - seats removed, plenty of room, 
>>and
>>nosy neighbors can't see me inside the car (except my feet sometimes)
>>because I have to put it up on stands to work underneath.
>>
>>Most problems have many solutions - the trick is to find a solution that
>>doesn't cause even more problems !
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Charlie
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "shortle" <shortle556 at earthlink.net>
>>To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; "Daniel Monasterio"
>><dmonasterio at hotmail.com>; "VirtualVairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:26 PM
>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>
>>
>>> It wouldn't. But it will be easier to install if you finish the job 
>>> under
>>> the car than trying to finish it under the dash. And I believe you are
>>> getting pretty good at this job.Did you compare the lengths of the 2
>>> cables? I know the original had broke but you still ought to be able to
>>> compare the 2 lengths. As always, wishing you good luck.
>>> Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>>>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 8:10 PM
>>>>To: Daniel Monasterio <dmonasterio at hotmail.com>, VirtualVairs
>>>><virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>
>>>>Just curious, but how would that change the length ?
>>>>
>>>>~Cz
>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>  From: Daniel Monasterio
>>>>  To: Charles Lee ; VirtualVairs
>>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:01 PM
>>>>  Subject: RE: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Think you are working backwards. You should start at the ball end,
>>>> first.
>>>>
>>>>  Daniel Monasterio
>>>>
>>>>  > From: Chaz at ProperProper.com
>>>>  > To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>>>>  > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:42:17 -0700
>>>>  > Subject: <VV> Parking Brake Cable question - too short ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Is the park brake different for EM and LM ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > If so, is one shorter, and what other visible difference is there ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Problem : I just installed Clark's cable, and reached into the bag 
>>>> for
>>>> the
>>>>  > adjustment nuts ? Aarrgghh....
>>>>  >
>>>>  > I guess they figured we'd re-use the old ones ? OK, but the old ones
>>>> are
>>>>  > rusted tight to the old cable and I can't get them off, so I'll just
>>>> get
>>>>  > some new ones, right ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > To be certain that I got the right ones before walking a mile each
>>>> way, I
>>>>  > called Clark's to get the right size :
>>>>  > The girl says "5/16 24" so I hike over to the hardware store to get
>>>> the two
>>>>  > (2) 18 cent 5/16 24 nuts that Clark's does not include (why not ?).
>>>>  >
>>>>  > So rethread the cable and wrestle with the 5/16 24's a while but no
>>>> go, so I
>>>>  > rip the cable back out and take it with me this time (those pulleys
>>>> under
>>>>  > the dash are NOT fun !)
>>>>  >
>>>>  > So I try a few more 5/16 24, but they're not 5/16 ***24*** !
>>>>  > They're 5/16 ***18***.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > OK, so back home and thread the needle again, - I'm getting pretty
>>>> good at
>>>>  > this, the third time.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Now, the ball doesn't reach the handle under the dash, so I go down
>>>> under
>>>>  > and extend the nuts all the way to the end of the adjustment part on
>>>> the
>>>>  > tail end to get a few more inches.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Still the ball end does not reach.
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Have I been short changed ?
>>>>  > Do I have an EM park brake cable ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Or, am I missing something (again) ?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Thanks in advance for your support !
>>>>  > Charlie
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
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