<VV> <CORSA Chapters> Naysayers

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I tried to get that done in my chapter and it was shot down handily, by 90% 
 of the membership. Obviously that 90% included existing CORSA members. 
They just  don't like being told what to do. If this rule was forced on us, my 
chapter  would drop out of CORSA or even fold. Chuck, this is not a childish 
threat, but  real hard facts. When I was on the BoD, other chapter said the 
same thing. I  can't attest for the factuality of their chapter reactions. 
All of this goes  with out my understanding.
 
Ned
 
 
In a message dated 9/8/2010 6:50:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
65crownv8 at gmail.com writes:

It would  be very easy for the chapters to take the decision out of CORSA's
hand by  instituting a by-law to require all future chapter members become
CORSA  members as well. The old timers can keep their "lone wolf" status for
as  long as they continue to maintain their local club membership in  good
standing. If they let their membership lapse, then in order to rejoin  their
local club they would have to become CORSA members as well.   This would not
impact our current membership at all, if you[re currently a  CORSA member,
you're likely to remain a CORSA member. If you're not, you  can remain free
of CORSA, but don't let you chapter membership lapse and  expect to get back
into the chapter without becoming a CORSA  member.

I've proposed this to the BoD twice and it's fell on deaf ears,  so I guess 
I
have to push from the ground up.

George  Jones
--------------------------------
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Corvair Society of America (CORSA)
Performance Corvair  Group
Central Florida Corvair Club (Since 2009)
Tidewater Corvair Club  (since 1987)
Central Virginia Corvair Club (since 2006)
CORSA (since  1987)
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On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:47 PM, J R Read  <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> I guess  you have me included in there somewhere.  I will remain a CORSA
>  member whether my local stays or goes.  Some of our local members have  
been
> with the local for 40 years, so they were there when the original  rules
> were
> set up and may indeed have had a say in what those  rules were to be.
>
> Personally, I'm a late comer to Vairs as I  did not arrive on the scene
> until
> 1978.  I think I joined  CORSA in '80 - maybe earlier, not sure.  I had
> nothing to do with  the original constitution, but several in our local 
did.
>
> Some  of the proposed ideas on these issues have been discussed at local
>  meetings - with a show of hands on various proposals.  My take on  those
> straw votes was that the charge to cover insurance expenses  would have 
the
> best chance with the most people.
>
> If  the issue gets forced to the point of the local choosing between
>  allowing
> (nearly) life long friends to participate with the local club  or not
> because
> of a change to the CORSA rules, I'm not real  sure what the outcome would
> be.
> I know that it would not be  pretty - which ever way it goes.
>
> Later,  JR
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis  Armer" <carmerjr at mindspring.com>
> To:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010  5:30 PM
> Subject: <VV> Naysayers
>
>
> >I am  surprised at the number of NAYSAYERS regarding 100% CORSA
> >  membership. Many who have responded are usually positive individuals
>  > who I have known personally for years. The stale old argument  that
> > clubs would withdraw from CORSA and small chapters would  fold and
> > disappear just is not a valid argument to present. It is  the same
> > negative slant that encourages NO action and uses  negativity as a
> > crutch. "I am going to take my ball and go home"  has been an ageless
> > threat since we were all children and now we  have
> > adults in CORSA using the same old threat. Grow up and see  the
> > problems of unenforceable rules / bylaws for what they are  and will
> > always be. Let's put a bylaw in CORSA that allows each  indidvidual
> > member  the right to an International referendum  vote on 100%
> > CORSA membership as a requirement of belonging to  CORSA. No straw
> > vote, no current / former CORSA Presidents or  Directors, representing
> > the members BUT each individual member  burdened with the single
> > responsibility to vote on CORSA's  future.
> >
> > Chuck Armer
> >
> > CORSA  Member
> > Corvanatics Member
> > Corvair Atlanta  Director
> > 1965 Corsa Coupe
> > 1964 Greenbrier
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> > SECC Member
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