<VV> Origin of the name of the "Saginaw trans"
Sethracer at aol.com
Sethracer at aol.com
Thu Sep 9 02:07:41 EDT 2010
In a message dated 9/8/2010 6:51:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
airvair at earthlink.net writes:
It's just that, right or wrong, the '60-5 tranny is often refered to as a
"Muncie" and the '66-9 tranny as a "Saginaw".
-Mark
Folks - It is pretty simple. Almost all other GM cars, including the
Corvette, used a Borg Warner T-10 4-speed through 1963. The "non-Super" T10 was
too light-duty a trans for the horsepower wars of the 60's. In 1964 GM
changed over the cars that needed it to the stronger "Muncie-built" M20, M21
and, eventually, the M22 Muncie trans. But these were expensive all-aluminum
transmissions and GM decided to build a lighter duty, cheaper trans for
other applications. This was the Saginaw-built 4-speed used in cars from
mid-1965 through, and including Vegas. Folks inside and outside of GM
differentiated between the two transmissions as "The Muncie" and "The Saginaw"
4-speeds. For the 1966 model year, there was no other car for the Corvair to
share trans parts with - unlike the Tempest had been through 1963. So GM
decided to share other parts into the Corvair. They could use the Saginaw built
4-speed as a source, because, unlike the T10 and the Muncie, it had all
three shift forks in the main housing. They adapted the interior
gears/bearings/shafts into a special Corvair housing and shifter. That is why the 66 and
later 3/4 speed trans is called the "Saginaw" 4-speed. Because it is
Saginaw 3/4speed transmission based, in reference to all the other GM
transmissions. I don't recall the earlier transmissions being referred to as anything
special until the Saginaw-based trans came out, then just "not-the-Saginaw".
Seth Emerson
C's the Day! - Corvair, Camaro, Corvette
San Jose, CA
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