<VV> Bad Quality Control

[J R Read]

Kev,

Hope you don't mind - I have a son named Kevin and that is what he gets 
called.

A couple of things... in the order they came up in your message.

1.  Remove the oil filter while the drain plug is out of the pan.  In fact, 
that is my first step - to remove the filter.  Why?  Because more oil drains 
out with the filter off.  Oh, take the filler cap off too!

1a.  You know the plastic bag method to catch spills from the filter, right?

2.  I THOUGHT you were going to tell us the filter would not go up into the 
mount on the engine.  I had that happen - the Fram filter I had removed 
still had it's "top end" stuck up in the filter housing.

3.  Don't buy Fram filters.

4.  Odd coincidence - today I was at Napa (on an unrelated mission), but 
happen to ask - "Do you have a NAPA Gold 1038 in stock?"  Answer - let me 
check.  Instead of going to the filter shelf, he went to one in the back and 
found ONE there.  I asked "How much are they?" - knowing full well that I 
have several on the shelf at home.  Answer - $11.99 per.  My next question 
"What can you do for me on a case of 12?"  Understand that this was not the 
boss or the owner - but he immediately offered 10% off.  I KNOW I can beat 
that, but just wanted to re-verify.

5.  Does this tie into the "marketing" thread?

6.  In case I forgot... don't buy Fram filters - or ANY other brand with 
that inverted U shaped gasket around the outer edge!

Later, JR


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin nash" <wrokit at hotmail.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:03 AM
Subject: <VV> Bad Quality Control


>
>   Last Friday, I decided it was oil change day, so I went to one of our 
> flaps, got my oil, got the filter (I rather liked the fact that
> I could get the oil filter, in stock!), went home, promptly drained the 
> oil while it was nice and hot, replaced and re-torqued the drain
> plug,removed the old filter, dumped the old oil out into my special drain 
> pan (fits under the oil pan, with a screw-on funnel), filled the
> new oil filter with oil, smear new oil on the oil filter gasket, set the 
> oil filter under the oil filter mount, set the perfectly clean oil fliter 
> mounting
> bolt on the oil filter threads, begin hand threading the bolt home- just 
> like I always do. This time, however, I'm beginning to think I've
> forgotten how to screw the bolt in, as I cant seem to get the threads 
> started. I carefully removed the oil filter, and after a few more 
> unsuccessful
> tries at starting the bolt, I found the problem- THAT M&TH%RF%%%!! oil 
> filter had no center threads! It was just a hole!
>
> I got on the phone, called the flaps (making sure that they knew i was 
> PISSED)- they called the other flaps, who, of course did not have a fram 
> ph-4
> or equivalent, and I was basically stranded ( my corvair is my only car!) 
> unless I did the unthinkable- put the new oil in, use the old oil filter, 
> which
> is what I did. This experience was enough to cause me to load up on oil 
> filters, from you know who, just so I never have to buy a flaps oil
> filter again!
>
> The flaps I bought the filter from was understandibly preturbed about the 
> whole situation, promptly refunded my money for the filter and
> gave me another quart of oil. They took the oil filter off in the back 
> room, never to be seen again!
>
> Kevin Nash
> Soon to be EFI'ed early spyder, daily driver
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