In a message dated 9/2/2010 7:17:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jay.pitchford at gmail.com writes: All the EM owners I know have a sense of humor and aren't insulted. jcp Jay - Please introduce me to these folks at the next convention. They are strangers to me! <grin> Seth Emerson C's the Day! - Corvair, Camaro, Corvette San Jose, CA