<VV> Salesmen---No Corvair

[kaczmarek at charter.net]

I've been a GM guy since I was born.  Chevy Tonawanda 1000 feet from my back door. Buffalo had 6 Trico Plants, 2 Harrison, 1 Saginaw Axle, and the Tonawanda Foundry.   Now we just have the Tonawanda Plant, where all Vair motors were assembled.   You didn't dare buy a non-GM car because GM put the food on every table in the neighborhood. 

NOT ANYMORE----

The 6 Trico Plants went to Mexico, as did one of the Harrison/Delphi plants.  Saginaw Gear and axle (where Corvair Diffs were born) is now just another empty factory. GM sent the jobs of at least 20,000 Buffalo residents to other countries.

I don't like GM cars anymore.  The Trucks are junk compared to Fords, and the cars don't measure up to ANY of the domestic competiton.  The import competiton REALLY makes them look bad.   The last 5 new vehicles purchased by my family have been Fords.  Happy with them all. 

Now, I CAN'T buy a GM car, because their biggest stockholder is our government. 
Ford---NOT on the government dole, with better vehicles.   Wanda's Alero has almost 150K on it---the replacement will probably be a Ford Fiesta. 
Hank 
---- Mark Corbin <airvair at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> You helped by one car.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: dennis dorogi <dfamily at fairpoint.net>
> > To: <kaczmarek at charter.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> > Date: 9/2/2010 12:24:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: <VV> Salesmen---No Corvair
> >
> > Well, I bought a new 2010 Malibu in August and paid too much for it too. 
> I 
> > just got tired of looking and trying to figure out how much new cars
> really 
> > cost.  The Malibu is a nice looking car, comfortable, and I like the
> Onstar 
> > for  sick old people like us.  I wanted to buy at a local dealer for
> future 
> > service, but I sort of wish I had gone with the 2011 Hyundai - it is an 
> > outstanding car and inexpensive too.  So from a Saturn to a Malibu. 
> Still 
> > faithful to GM.  Guess I didn't help much. Oh, well.
> >
> > Dennis D.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <kaczmarek at charter.net>
> > To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:32 AM
> > Subject: <VV> Salesmen---No Corvair
> >
> >
> > > Folks
> > > The Auto Industry just finished their worst month of August for sales 
> > > since 1983.
> > > GM hit very hard---No Cash for Clunkers this year.
> > > Ford hit hard only on Focus and Escape Models, No Cash for Clunkers
> > > Toyota hit REALLY Hard, No Cash for Clunkers and recalls have hurt
> sales.
> > > Chrysler had a slight gain (single digits), but it got the smallest
> boost 
> > > last year from Cash for Clunkers.
> > >
> > > Things have changed in dealerships these days.  Used to be you were 
> > > assaulted by someone the minute you came in the door.  Today's consumer
> is 
> > > different. They walk in with Consumer Reports under their arm, Reviews
> off 
> > > the internet, and won't cotton to high pressure sales tactics.
> > >
> > > When I sold New and Used Buicks 26 years ago, I greeted the customer, 
> > > found out what they were NEEDING (not wanted) and qualified them at the 
> > > same time.  After a walk-around explanation of the car, out for a test 
> > > drive you go.
> > >
> > >  I'd get a price from Mgmt and set it in front of the customer like I 
> > > didn't give a crap if they bought or not, and SHUT UP----because in
> that 
> > > scenario, the next person to speak loses.
> > >
> > > The industry is in a malaise due to the uncertainty of the economy. 
> Any 
> > > attempt to seem too anxious to make the sale by a salesperson will 
> > > frighten or turn off the customer.  All the industry trades agree that 
> > > just like employers don't want to hire anyone due to economic
> uncertainty, 
> > > the public is apprehensive about purchasing big ticket items like cars
> and 
> > > trucks.   If you want to buy, feel free to ask someone to help you, 
> > > regardless of how you are dressed. They know you're serious if you seek 
> > > them out.
> > >
> > > Lots of "tire kickin'" right now in the weatherstripping business too.
> > >
> > > Hank
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