<VV> New engine possibilities

Sun Oct 31 07:50:51 EDT 2010

 Actually, the current pressure is closer to 4000 PSI, and there are composite tanks running as high as 5000 PSI. Depending on the depth, and whether or not you have multiple tanks, one can go a lot longer. Especially if the diver has a rebreather! 

Sure, if you REALLY work at it, you can break off the valve. But then again, if you REALLY work at it, you can set the gas tank on fire in a car. In other words, nothing's safe, but SCUBA tanks have a very good safety record. 

The compressor probably isn't on board. Obviously, it's probably powered from the line. 

John Roberts

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From: Richard Gebhardt <rampside64 at att.net>
To: jvhroberts at aol.com
Cc: kenpepke at juno.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> New engine possibilities

            John, my question is:   Where is the compressor? If on-board, what    powers it? As to Scuba tanks, the standard is an 80 cu in pumped to    3000PSI. Average diver can stay 
    down 25 to 60 minutes depending on depth and breathing technique.    Not sure about shooting one, but if you break the head off, it    becomes a rocket. Usually not a problem 
    on the dive boat, but has happened in-transit from the pump to the    boat.

    Regards

    Richard

    On 10/30/2010 2:53 PM, jvhroberts at aol.com wrote:    

 Richard, the              technology exists today. How do you think they fill SCUBA              tanks, etc.? And they don't blow up! Even if you shoot              one, they don't blow up. Mythbusters had an episode on              that... I want their job! LOL

John Roberts

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            From: Richard <rampside64 at att.net>
            To: kenpepke at juno.com <kenpepke at juno.com>
            Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org            <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
            Sent: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 12:33 pm
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Ken, you are a voice crying in the great 'green anti-fossil fuel' wilderness.

I noticed that no mention was made as to where this compressed air was to be 

obtained. My compressor, a two stage 80 gal 220 volt requires a dedicated line. 

I guess the creators of this consider the air supply to be in the

'hard part, do later' category. My guess

Is what they really want is a follow-on

Grant for further research. 

Regards

Richard Gebhardt

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On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:42 AM, "kenpepke at juno.com" <kenpepke at juno.com> wrote:

> 

> Why does everyone think they are going to get something for free?  Internal 

combustion engines became the norm because the conversion of fuel to energy 

takes place within.  Electric cars require power to be generated elsewhere then 

be transferred from the source to the vehicle and this engine requires 

electricity from the source to be transferred to the compressor and transferred 

again to the vehicle and yet another transfer from the storage chambers to the 

motor.  There is a loss at EACH ONE of these transfers because each is less than 

100% efficient.  Everyone on this list knows the cost of running an air 

compressor.  And the higher the pressure the greater the cost ... who would want 

to be around for the concussion should one of these high pressure air tanks 

fail?  Even if the wear problem could be over come the loss in efficiency 

through all the transfers could not be tolerated.  A hydraulic motor would be 

superior to the air system.  There is nothing free there either.

> Ken P

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> "Ron" <ronh at owt.com> wrote:

> 

> There was no mention of any solution to the wear problem that has been 

> chronic with all of the similar designs that have preceeded this one.

> RonH

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