<VV> make Corvairs less "aromatic"

[Charles Lee]

Yes, thanks, I did keep parts in order so they go back to where they belong.

Only one bolt (the one that holds the yoke on #5 intake) pulled the long 
stud out with it, and may have to come out when I remove the head (tomorrow, 
Tuesday) ?

No spare heads and no car to bring this one to a shop, so I'm hoping it's 
something I can fix here, but what are the odds of that happening ?

I am collecting a huge supply of "stuff" that may come in handy someday ?

Charlie

www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1967MonzaCylinderHeadRemoval.htm

www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1967MonzaRestorationMenu.htm


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Cc: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> make Corvairs less "aromatic"


> Six head bolts?
>
> Oh, you did the non-rusty ones first?
>
> Let's see how many studs you can unscrew on the OTHER six!
>
> Got a spare head that you can send off to the machine shop WHILE you are 
> removing this one?
>
> Oh, you DID keep the balls with the rockers together and know which came 
> from where, right?
>
> Later, JR
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
> To: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Cc: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> make Corvairs less "aromatic"
>
>
>> Thanks - Good idea, before jumping at that ...
>>
>> I just got another project to deal with - no compression in #3 ...
>>
>> It was OK in all cylinders when I started this odyssey, but now off comes
>> the head !!!
>>
>> www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1967MonzaCylinderHeadRemoval.htm
>>
>> Here's the 'main menu' :
>>
>> www.yourbuyersinn.com/Cars/Corvair/1967MonzaRestorationMenu.htm
>>
>> I remember doing this a few times back in the day, so what's one more 
>> time ?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "J R Read" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Cc: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>
>> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 8:13 PM
>> Subject: make Corvairs less "aromatic"
>>
>>
>>> Just a thought...  We already have PLENTY of heat to get rid of with our
>>> air cooled engines.  What effect might a catalytic converter have in 
>>> terms
>>> of an additional heat source?  I'm not saying don't do it, just give it
>>> due consideration before jumping in.
>>>
>>> There was (maybe still is) someone on VV who had a cat converter on a LM
>>> about  2 or 3 years back.  I don't recall who.  You might wish to do a
>>> search?
>>>
>>> Later, JR
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
>>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>> Cc: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 12:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: <VV> OBD-II for Corvair to make Corvairs less "aromatic" ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the excellent ideas - I would never have thought of a 
>>>> generic
>>>> catalytic converter.
>>>>
>>>> The EFI/DIS lend themselves nicely to other (digital) electronic
>>>> auxiliary
>>>> solutions, such as Ken Campbell externally setting the high speed 
>>>> mixture
>>>> at
>>>> speed, or the "Innovate" system to digitally control (or at least
>>>> monitor)
>>>> air flow dynamically, among other "engine-ious" solutions.
>>>>
>>>> I have a great book on fuel injection by Bosch to go along with Bob
>>>> Helt's
>>>> carb book both full of fun facts that lead to thinking about improving
>>>> the
>>>> Corvair's air-quality-quotient, plus make them eminently more reliable 
>>>> in
>>>> the process.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe electronic controls like Mike Mauro's air flow meters are just 
>>>> what
>>>> are needed to continually monitor the wide range of operating 
>>>> conditions
>>>> that drive the Corvair ?
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone used Arduino DIY circuit boards to design your own controls 
>>>> ?
>>>> They are completely programmable and may provide an interesting 
>>>> solution
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm still trying to NOT asphyxiate myself while getting mine to run 
>>>> well
>>>> enough to drive, and figure now's the time to investigate my options ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the insights !
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Dale Dewald" <dkdewald at pasty.net>
>>>> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: <VV> OBD-II for Corvair to make Corvairs less "aromatic" ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At 17:09 10/09/2010 -0400, Charlie wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have heard on VV that Corvairs (and other air-cooled engines) are 
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>good
>>>>>>candidates for meeting air quality requirements due to the high
>>>>>>temperatures, (and poor construction tolerances ?)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not so much the operating temperature, but the wide range of
>>>>> operating temperatures that occur between idle, coast, cruise,
>>>>> acceleration, etc for an engine that is, for all practical purposes,
>>>>> "warmed up."  This necessitates rather loose tolerances--by design--to
>>>>> account for thermal expansion of the various parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems like you have done a lot of research and we might all benefit
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>this to make Corvairs less "aromatic" ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can smell "classic" cars when they drive by me, and know that my
>>>>>>Corvair
>>>>>>(also a 1967 Monza 110 PG) also does, and would like to remedy that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beyond making adjustments to the carburetor jetting, you might 
>>>>> consider
>>>>> installing a universal fit catalytic converter in the exhaust system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dale Dewald
>>>>> Hancock, MI
>>>>>
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