<VV> SUSPECT: Re: Hosting

[Ken Wildman]

Tim:

I'm curious about an issue that doesn't seem to be addressed here.  We
recently transferred my personal Ultra Van website to the Corvair site as
part of the process of making it the Ultra Van club official site.

When I have an issue with it, I simply contact Bryan and it gets fixed or he
advise me on what I need to do.  This contrasts with another club where I am
a member of the web-team and our site is on one of these commercial provider
sites.  We get lousy service, hit or miss responses from their tech support,
little flexibility.

How would we get the level of service provided by Bryan working with a
commercial site that deals with many clubs and has much less interest in
hand-holding us through our issues?  The only workable process I see would
be to try out providers and go through some number of changes in service
until we got lucky.  Is there anyone in the club who would commit to
handling the interface with an outside provider on a permanent volunteer
basis?  Would you make that permanent commitment as a volunteer?  Will you
be available to deal with dozens of club pages managed by people with
varying web skills?

I don't have to tell you that this will not run automatically on its own.
There will still have to be someone on the club end to deal with a myriad of
problems, tutoring new webmasters for club pages, and working out
coordination for the continuous up-dating of the various pages.  Isn't that
what we have now?

One last point.  You seem to have been focused on a budgeting "short-hand"
description of Bryan's services.  Perhaps requesting a definition of that
budget line could have been a first step?

Ken


-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Tim Verthein
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:09 PM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: SUSPECT: Re: <VV> Hosting

That is NOT what the financial report says.  It says "Hosting" "Hosting"
does NOT include the additional work Bryan is doing. If you are paying $900
for "hosting" yearly, you're paying to much.  If you're paying $900 yearly
and Bryan is doing something to maintain, monitor, and administrate, etc..
that's an entirely different thing. However a hosting service, such as those
mentioned do the maintenance on the servers as part of the service.

Lon, I just downloaded your entire website to my computer.  Tomorrow I will
upload a duplicate to MY web server.  I will then also be hosting the entire
thing, at NO additional cost to me. It will just be a part of my web site,
on the server or "hosting" service I pay for, that has unlimited server
space, for $66 a year.  If you are paying $102 monthly for just HOSTING
you're paying too much.  If that figure includes building/maintaining the
web site, that is different.  But $102 monthly for hosting is far too much.
I'm paying 66$ a YEAR.  Look at my web site and see how it compares to
yours.  But again, if that includes more than hosting, it's a different
kettle of fish. 

Why would we need a dedicated server, and not a shared server?  Everything
that is happening on the CORSA site would work just fine on a shared server
at a substantial savings. The CORSA site will NEVER grow to the size where a
dedicated server is necessary, and with most services providing unlimited
space, it's almost never necessary.  Hosting means :

"In order to publish a website online, you need a Web host. The Web host
stores all the pages of your website and makes them available to computers
connected to the Internet. The domain name, such as "sony.com," is actually
linked to an IP address that points to a specific computer. When somebody
enters your domain name into their browser's address field, the IP address
is located and Web site is loaded from your Web host.

A Web host can have anywhere from one to several thousand computers that run
Web hosting software, such as Apache, OS X Server, or Windows Server. Most
websites you see on the Web are accessed from a "shared host," which is a
single computer that can host several hundred Web sites. Larger websites
often use a "dedicated host," which is a single machine that hosts only one
website. Sites with extremely high amounts of traffic, such as apple.com or
microsoft.com, use several computers to host one site.

If you want to publish your own website, you'll need to sign up for a "Web
hosting service." Finding a good Web host shouldn't be too hard, since their
are thousands available. Just make sure the Web host you choose offers good
technical support and ensures little or no downtime. You'll usually have to
pay a monthly fee that varies depending on how much disk space and bandwidth
your site will use. So it's a good idea to estimate how big your site will
be and how much traffic you expect before signing up for a Web hosting
service."

This is an older definition of the service, as I mentioned, many now offer
unlimited space.  Not all, but many. or the limit is so huge you'd never
really reach it unless you're Youtube, or eBay, or Yahoo (all of whom would
have dedicated servers).  CORSA is hardly going to see the server load of
Microsoft or Apple. 

If we're not "getting it" it's because the information is not being offered.
"Hosting" means Hosting.  If Bryan is providing additional services which
apparently he is, then I'm sure it's of value to us.  But $900 for hosting
for a year is nuts.

Hi--

Some of you just do not get it. Bryan's service includes hosting the 
CORSA site and the member's site. He handles ALL of the chapter login 
details. He manages both board lists. He has also setup and maintained 
VV, since the beginning.

So, let's evaluate the quotes:

www.simplehost.com says dedicated server hosting starts at $225/mo.

www.fatcow.com does not list dedicated server hosting in its list of 
services (or I missed it).

GoDaddy.com dedicated hosting is $63/mo.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...

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>    1. Hosting Services (Was:  Just me
> Complainin')
>       (Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary)
>    2. Missing? carb hose (ralphsebrell at aol.com)
>    3. Re: Hosting Services (Was:  Just
> me Complainin')
>       (corvairs at pacifier.com)
>    4. Re: CORSA Members on the Internet -
> polling (Jay Pitchford)
>    5. Re: Tire Size (Jay Pitchford)
>    6. Re: CORSA Members on the Internet (The
> Reinharts)
>    7. Re: Missing? carb hose (Bryan
> Blackwell)
>    8. Corvair.US update (Scott Trunkhill)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:42:30 -0600
> From: "Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary" <corsa at corvair.org>
> Subject: <VV> Hosting Services (Was:  Just me
> Complainin')
> To: Jim Houston <jhouston001 at cfl.rr.com>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org,
> Tim Verthein
>     <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <4B96CED6.3030703 at corvair.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
> 
> Hi--
> 
> Some of you just do not get it. Bryan's service includes
> hosting the 
> CORSA site and the member's site. He handles ALL of the
> chapter login 
> details. He manages both board lists. He has also setup and
> maintained 
> VV, since the beginning.
> 
> So, let's evaluate the quotes:
> 
> www.simplehost.com says dedicated server hosting starts at
> $225/mo.
> 
> www.fatcow.com does not list dedicated server hosting in
> its list of 
> services (or I missed it).
> 
> GoDaddy.com dedicated hosting is $63/mo.
> 
> Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...
> 
> --H
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/9/2010 2:51 PM, Jim Houston wrote:
> > GoDaddy.com - $102.50 per year...
> >
> > Jim Houston
> >
> > Tim Verthein wrote:
> >> OK. Since you replied to the group:
> >>
> >> http://www.simplehost.com  That's where my
> employers site is.
> >> or
> >> http://www.fatcow.com   That's where my
> site is.
> >>
> >> Note this is "HOSTING" and no "administration"
> >>
> >> I sent you a more involved reply
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Bryan Blackwell<bryan at skiblack.com> 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: Bryan Blackwell<bryan at skiblack.com>
> >>> Subject: Re:<VV>  Just me
> Complainin'
> >>> To: "Tim Verthein"<minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> >>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> >>> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:17 PM
> >>> Hi Tim,
> >>>
> >>> PLEASE tell the BOD where they can get a
> better deal on
> >>> hosting.  Really.  No kidding. 
> Do it today!
> >>>
> >>> --Bryan
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Tim Verthein
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Web administration was over $4000 in 2008.
> For 2010
> >>>>
> >>> they have it split up 2316 for administration,
> 900 for
> >>> hosting. Don't know exactly what
> "administration" includes,
> >>> but for $900 you're getting hosed on hosting.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:45:13 -0500
> From: ralphsebrell at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Missing? carb hose
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <8CC8DF150D289F9-2424-5499 at webmail-d036.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> 
> Today while trying  to figure why my 140 runs rough, I
> noticed a "hose barb" on the primary on the driver's side
> might be missing a hose. 
> It is under the white disk (standing on it's side) that has
> its own hose to the bottom of the carb. On the pass side
> primary, the barb in question has a hose that runs to the
> vacuum advance on the distributer.
> Shouldn't there be something on the barb on the drivers
> carb?
> Trying to learn
> Ralph 
> 65 Corsa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:53:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: corvairs at pacifier.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> Hosting Services (Was:  Just
> me Complainin')
> To: "Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary" <corsa at corvair.org>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org,
> Tim Verthein
>     <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID:
>     <50650.71.117.230.75.1268175220.squirrel at webmail.iinet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Hi - My corvairunderground.com hosting costs me $102.00 a
> month - that's
> 1200.00+ a year. People seem so convinced that Corsa is
> mismanaged that
> they don't even check their math before they accuse. It
> seems that
> increasingly logic has no place in this
> discussion.   Lon
> 
> 
> 
> > Hi--
> >
> > Some of you just do not get it. Bryan's service
> includes hosting the
> > CORSA site and the member's site. He handles ALL of
> the chapter login
> > details. He manages both board lists. He has also
> setup and maintained
> > VV, since the beginning.
> >
> > So, let's evaluate the quotes:
> >
> > www.simplehost.com says dedicated server hosting
> starts at $225/mo.
> >
> > www.fatcow.com does not list dedicated server hosting
> in its list of
> > services (or I missed it).
> >
> > GoDaddy.com dedicated hosting is $63/mo.
> >
> > Talk about biting the hand that feeds you...
> >
> > --H
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/9/2010 2:51 PM, Jim Houston wrote:
> >> GoDaddy.com - $102.50 per year...
> >>
> >> Jim Houston
> >>
> >> Tim Verthein wrote:
> >>> OK. Since you replied to the group:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.simplehost.com  That's
> where my employers site is.
> >>> or
> >>> http://www.fatcow.com   That's where my
> site is.
> >>>
> >>> Note this is "HOSTING" and no
> "administration"
> >>>
> >>> I sent you a more involved reply
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Bryan Blackwell<bryan at skiblack.com> 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Bryan Blackwell<bryan at skiblack.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re:<VV>  Just me
> Complainin'
> >>>> To: "Tim Verthein"<minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> >>>> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:17 PM
> >>>> Hi Tim,
> >>>>
> >>>> PLEASE tell the BOD where they can get a
> better deal on
> >>>> hosting.  Really.  No
> kidding.  Do it today!
> >>>>
> >>>> --Bryan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Tim Verthein
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Web administration was over $4000 in
> 2008. For 2010
> >>>>>
> >>>> they have it split up 2316 for
> administration, 900 for
> >>>> hosting. Don't know exactly what
> "administration" includes,
> >>>> but for $900 you're getting hosed on
> hosting.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> > | CORSA Executive Secretary
> > |
> > | Corvair Society of America (CORSA)
> > | P.O. Box 607, Lemont, IL 60439, 630.257.6530 
> fax 630.257.5540
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:18:05 -0500
> From: Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet -
> polling
> To: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID:
>     <e1511a601003091618s56bbe092ld23cf093ca6bda37 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> How about a quarterly Communique, with a monthly issue
> online? Anyone who
> elects not to download it can get it quarterly in a
> condensed format.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Vairtec Corporation
> <Vairtec at optonline.net>wrote:
> 
> > Just having an e-mail address is not sufficient
> evidence of a desire to
> > receive material electronically.  In my local
> chapter, only about two
> > out of nearly 100 member households has not provided
> an e-mail address,
> > but only about 75% of the member households choose to
> receive their
> > newsletters electronically.
> >
> > Despite the savings realized by the club in moving
> nearly 75% of the
> > membership to electronic delivery, we do not bother
> with the complexity
> > of a multi-tier dues rate.  Dues are one price
> regardless of which
> > delivery method one chooses.  The savings is
> being expended to the
> > benefit of all members.  For example, this year
> we are giving one free
> > year with each membership renewal, and we are paying
> each owner's entry
> > fee for a big multi-make car show where this year the
> Corvair is the
> > feature car.
> >
> > I endorse the position which suggests that CORSA move
> content online.
> > Not all content, there will always be a place for a
> printed
> > publication.  But online content is the way of
> the world today, like it
> > or not.  Those who choose not to access CORSA
> online will receive
> > information less quickly, and will perhaps receive
> less total
> > information, but this is a matter of choice their
> choice.  We need not
> > try to cater to each individual, but instead to the
> common good.
> >
> > --Bob Marlow
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:24:47 -0500
> From: Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Tire Size
> To: harding.ian at gmail.com
> Cc: Virtual Vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Ian,
> 
> I also used Bryan's site before buying tires for my 65
> convertible. I ended
> up with four 14x7 '69 Chevelle SS 5-spoke wheels with
> 235/60s on the rear
> and 215/60s on the front. Reply to me off-line if you want
> pictures.
> 
> Jay Pitchford
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Ian Harding <harding.ian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am looking at a set of 14 X 7 wheels which have 235
> 60R14 tires on them.
> >
> > I understand from Bryan's site that these will fit the
> back of my car
> > (66 Monza Convertible) with no problem, but they might
> be trouble in
> > front.
> >
> > Is anyone running that size tire in front of a late
> model and did you
> > have to do any cutting to make them fit?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > - Ian
> >  _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:41:47 -0600
> From: "The Reinharts" <jtreinhart at omnitelcom.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet
> To: "Gary Moore" <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>,   
> "Executive SecretaryHarry
>     Jensen" <corsa at corvair.org>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID:
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> 
> All, Gary asked the question, I will try and answer. What
> this survey means 
> to me is: I will be able to stay in contact with you, the
> members of the 
> Corvair family, no matter what happens in the future to the
> printed 
> Communique. If you are looking for an ominous prediction,
> here it is, No 
> matter what we do, in my honest opinion, the printed
> Communique will have to 
> become a bi-monthly or quarterly issue within two years, to
> save CORSA money 
> and keep the club solvent. I then want to use the website
> to fill in the 
> gaps between the issues. That is why this survey is so
> important to me. In 
> my opinion we could end up completely relying on the web
> within 10 years. As 
> I said yesterday I will explain it all and outline my plan
> for the future in 
> a document and present it to the board and you in the
> following weeks. You 
> can then register your opinion and help us decide what you
> want for the 
> future of CORSA. In the meantime know that the BoD is
> working on every angle 
> to increase membership and income.  Thanks for your
> comments and concerns. I 
> will keep you posted.
> 
> Jamie Reinhart
> CORSA Central Director
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Moore" <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>
> To: "Executive SecretaryHarry Jensen" <corsa at corvair.org>
> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 04:30 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet
> 
> 
> > Maybe I should have brought this up earlier. Do we
> need an accurate count? 
> > Besides "it would be nice to know", what reason do we
> need to know the 
> > information? Is this information that is missing from
> the CORSA membership 
> > database? Gary Moore
> > The Internet, a magnificent new technology combining
> the credibility of 
> > anonymous hearsay with the excitement of typing. ?Jon
> Stewart
> >
> > --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary
> <corsa at corvair.org>
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > From: Harry Jensen, Executive Secretary <corsa at corvair.org>
> > Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA Members on the Internet
> > To: "Gary Moore" <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org,
> airvair at earthlink.net
> > Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:49 PM
> >
> > Hi--
> >
> > Well, what about the folks who are not members of
> chapters? How do they 
> > get counted?
> >
> > --H
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/9/2010 11:02 AM, Gary Moore wrote:
> >> Agreed, there are flaws in any survey, but still
> the survey taken from 
> >> club rosters by club officials would be much more
> accurate then relying 
> >> on each person to answer a survey. Our club has 52
> memberships, single 
> >> and family, 4 do not list an email address and two
> have non-working email 
> >> addresses. All are CORSA members. That puts the
> percentage at 88%. Is 
> >> this typical? Maybe not, but it is probably pretty
> close. Gary Moore
> >
> > --
> |--------------------------------------------------------------
> > | Harry Jensen mailto:corsa at corvair.org
> > | CORSA Executive Secretary
> > |
> > | Corvair Society of America (CORSA)
> > | P.O. Box 607, Lemont, IL 60439, 630.257.6530 fax
> 630.257.5540
> > | http://www.corvair.org
> >
> |--------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:43:14 -0500
> From: Bryan Blackwell <bryan at skiblack.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Missing? carb hose
> To: ralphsebrell at aol.com
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <77F68849-95E1-4EBD-AB91-447E6769B994 at skiblack.com>
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> 
> It should be capped - look carefully, sometimes the caps
> are grungy and it's hard to tell something is there. The
> white disk, BTW, is the choke pull off.
> 
> --Bryan
> 
> Bryan Blackwell bryan at skiblack.com
> http://autoxer.skiblack.com/
>  Corvairs: '62 700 Wagon, '64 Greenbrier, '65 Corsa, '66
> Corsa
>  '69 Road Runner, '09 Ford F-150, '99 Neon R/T
> "Why do something if you're not going to obsess about it?"
> 
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:45 PM, ralphsebrell at aol.com
> wrote:
> 
> > Today while trying  to figure why my 140 runs
> rough, I noticed a "hose barb" on the primary on the
> driver's side might be missing a hose. 
> > It is under the white disk (standing on it's side)
> that has its own hose to the bottom of the carb. On the pass
> side primary, the barb in question has a hose that runs to
> the vacuum advance on the distributer.
> > Shouldn't there be something on the barb on the
> drivers carb?
> > Trying to learn
> > Ralph 
> > 65 Corsa
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:55:50 -0500
> From: Scott Trunkhill <strunkhill1 at comcast.net>
> Subject: <VV> Corvair.US update
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <C7FBA2CF-0508-46C9-AD1F-72E4DCAA613E at comcast.net>
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> 
> Sorry to interrupt everybody's complaining. I have been
> working on a update to my Web site http://corvair.us the past view weeks. 
> 
> This is the first major update since the site was launched.
> I am trying to get everything ready before the Car
> Show/Racing season starts. I hope everyone will stop by and
> take a look around.
> 
>  There are photos (nearly 7,000) on there from the last ten
> years, going back to the 2000 CORSA Convention. Some of them
> have not been linked to before on this site. You can read
> more about an effort to tag all of the photos below and on
> the site. I have just gotten started with the effort but
> here is an example of what is possible once all the photos
> are tagged. Here is a page that shows Camper Packages
> install in FCs. http://corvair.us/category/tags/camper-package You will
> notice that the photos come from many different shows but
> they can all be displayed together since they are all tagged
> as Camper Packages.
> 
> Here is the announcement from the site. I hope you enjoy it
> and send me any feedback.
> 
> >>>
> Welcome to the newest version of Corvair.US. This is the
> first major update to the site since it first launched
> nearly eight years ago.
> 
> There are still some items under construction and it will
> be an evolving Web site. This version is built on an open
> source content management platform called Drupal. For you
> non-Techies out there that means that it is much easier for
> me to add updates and for me to allow others to post
> information to the site.
> 
> Currently any one that comes to the site can help with the
> photo tagging. If you register for an account on most of the
> photo information pages you will see an edit tab. If you
> click on it you will get a form which will allow you to edit
> the categories for that photo. The current categories are:
> year, body style, model and tags. Tags allows you to select
> more than one term to describe what is shown in the photo.
> If you have a suggestion on either another category to add
> or a term to add to the tags selection let me know and I
> will consider them.
> 
> Once you create an account and post your own stories and
> photos. Because of spammer issues with other sites I have I
> currently have it setup where I have to approve new members.
> If I don't get your account activated in a couple of days
> send me an email.
> 
> >>>
> 
> 
> Scott Trunkhill
> CORSA, Corvair Atlanta, SECC, CORSA SC
> 66 Corsa, 65 Convertible, 65 Corsa Autocrosser, 63
> Greenbrier
> scott at trunkhill.com
> ####################################
> 
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>    
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> http://corvair.us         
>                 http://corvair.tv
> 
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